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Transfers January 2020 transfer thread

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Errrr no.
I said I have not manipulated his point or mis characterised him for my own “twisted logic”.

I fully understand the words he said. Literally.

But to claim new players, regardless of price, might need up to THREE years to bed in is absurd, and just goes to show why he didn’t have the ability or guts to drop his favourites
They were his comfort blanket.....he had nothing else to offer.
So you're saying "I'm (Sammy) not twisting his point" while you go right back to twisting his point? He said to "show their real quality" NOT fucking 'bed in' Sammy which is exactly the take I was ripping in my first post.

It took us into the 3rd season to look our best. How do we look right now? Is this how you expect us to look next season? How about the season after? Poch never took a season to play a player of quality ie Sonny, Davies, Sanchez, etc. Often if they were brought in late and missed preseason the really wouldn't feature until November-ish but your characterization if BS.

I know you're 'feeling yourself' because it's January and transfers are actually happening but give it a rest on this one.
 
Responsible for what?
You said they are similar and agreed with a post saying Keane is half the player..

Keane was responsible for United winning the title at a canter.

Keane was a brilliant player, but the speed and technical level of the game has gone up a notch from when he played. His stamina and positional flexibility wouldn't stand out today the way it did then. Fernandinho is probably a good comparison for what Keane would be like in today's football.

The thing modern football is lacking today are the win-every-challenge tackling CB's of yore. The unicorn player today would be someone who can tackle like Nemanja Vidic and also play with the ball at his feet like Toby or Aymeric Laporte or whoever.
 
So you're saying "I'm (Sammy) not twisting his point" while you go right back to twisting his point? He said to "show their real quality" NOT fucking 'bed in' Sammy which is exactly the take I was ripping in my first post.

It took us into the 3rd season to look our best. How do we look right now? Is this how you expect us to look next season? How about the season after? Poch never took a season to play a player of quality ie Sonny, Davies, Sanchez, etc. Often if they were brought in late and missed preseason the really wouldn't feature until November-ish but your characterization if BS.

I know you're 'feeling yourself' because it's January and transfers are actually happening but give it a rest on this one.
So you think it’s possible to show their real quality before they’ve bedded in?

You think it’s logical to expect a player to take 2-3 years to show their best?
Will you afford 2-3 years to Gedson then?

Will you allow Sessegnon until 2023 to look like a good signjng?
 
Just seen that Palace have agreed £16m fee for Jarrod Bowen too.

Id have loved that signing if we had other priorities sewn up.
 
18 months to 2 years Poch said.
Yet here Poch was justifying how it took Son and Sissoko until year 3.

And whatever, it’s still a joke.
Especially as you’ve been already weary of our new signings and targets.

Don’t sit here and pretend you will wait until next May to judge Gedson or Bergwijn, let alone January 2022....

3 poor games and you’ll be all about Levy Out
 
SC Today:

dragon1: Make that under 10% chance of second signing now , one small striker deal outside chance , the poles gone , miles apart on Jose and bale never really got out the gates once Barnett refused loan and insisted we make up lion share of bales wages
Unless we are offered a last min vdv tomorrow who Jose wants long term we are keeping powder dry for summer.

dragon1: Of the small chance of a striker there is one other possibility other than giroud that I’ve not seen reported anywhere
He has played under Jose previously

says hes played for 2 prem clubs
also that fellaini is not happening, if anyone worried about that

thats from dragon1 obviously
 
So you think it’s possible to show their real quality before they’ve bedded in?
Yes, I think they are two different things and I believe you do as well if you weren't called up on it and now playing silly buggers. Players can still be good but playing it safe ie bedded in before they really understand and feel comfortable to take risks, demand the ball, feel entitled to step on a few toes ie real quality. It's the same in every walk of fucking life Sammy.

Modric took deep into his second season to show his real quality, Neymar took into his second Barca season to show his real quality and not step on other's toes, etc etc. It takes times Sammy and only a moron wouldn't understand it and the difference between fitting in (bedding in) and standing out (real quality). But I do know that willful ignorance is your thing. It's just not a good look.
 
Yeah, but that's Sammy you're talking to. First it's 2 years and now it 'up to three years' and soon it will be 'never'. Whatever it takes to 'make' his point he will throw out. It's all nonsense though entertaining.
“Look at what happened with Son [Heung-min] or [Moussa] Sissoko. They started to perform in year two, year three.”

So. Up to three years then.
Oops.

And besides, even 18 months is a fucking joke
 
Sooooo.....when are the 'Come Back Moussa Dembele' posts going to begin........and any other players in China we would quite like back on a 6 month loan...

How long will UK customs quarantine them though...

Would take Dembele in an instant, no we have (hopefully) trainers who might think it OK to scale the intensity of training to a players individual needs.
 
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