Only thing if we was to get a player from China wouldn't they have to spend 2 weeks I'm quarantine?
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Transfers January 2020 transfer thread
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The only reason why they would do that is because nobody at Chelsea rates him (anymore), just like they were happy to let David Luiz go to Woolwich.
And throughout that whole time that success was built upon the manager's coaching of players who were mostly here when he got here. Therefore not planning and judgment of the people that remain here now. Very little was done by those people deserving of 'trust'.
Thanks for making my point for me. You should have caught this before sending it out.
No, I reject your premise. I've seen maybe an hour of preseason game of this kid and I bet you've not seen much more. I will be 'honest' and say that no one knows what to expect from this kid and judging from the previous can't-miss-youthers let's say I have my doubts. And I don't trust the assessments of biased, axe-grindy 'academy c*nts' either because in my time they've built up a thousand and almost always been wrong. But they've got 2 thousand excuses as to why and at no point is it "the player wasn't good enough and my previous assessment was shit".
And the whole 'harming his progress' is a bullshit point that is often made by folks hopeful that some future league 1 Bristol or Southend player can make it. If he's good enough he will earn it...like Harry...and Harry...and Tanganga. And you've just written down all those strikers taht were in front of Harry and if you could refresh my memory how'd that work out? Do you know why? Because he was good enough. QED.
Agreed to a point. It is an emergency now whereas planning that would have been worthy of future trust would have prevented such a situation. Constant evolution obviates the need for revolution ie proactive work worthy of trust versus hair-on-fire reactive work worthy of concern and distrust.
I ask you this, how much trust should be engendered in not having a replacement for the physically broken down Dembele? How long did we know of his physical issues?
This is a self-serving take. Ample evidence exists for judgment now. You can judge the process my friend and not just the ultimate result. You think I'm biting on 'ends justifying means' level of thinking? Nope. That
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level of reasoning. This type of thinking is why processes don't get better and people keep repeating the same fucking mistakes...and the same people keep absolving responsible parties of blame. Right here, right now is the result of a fuck up. I would say a big fuck up as well. Poch's firing was the culmination of fuck ups. Last season's league form was a fuck up that folk's whistled past because we got to a CL final. The Sammy-summer was a fuck up. The second half of the season before the Sammy-summer was a fuck up that had many a warning sign but was overlooked. Recent history littered with in-process fuck ups yet somehow I'm supposed to blindly offer my trust? Nope.
I would prefer the results being sketchy but the process being perfect. There is a degree of uncertainty in transfers and chance in results. I accept that. But if you get the process right then more often than not the results will favor you. So if a ready to go senior striker were brought in but was shit (eg Willian Jose was brought in in the summer) I would be happier now than a clear fuck up in the process and chasing this guy now because we are up shit's creek. That would engender trust that those in charge recognize/foresee and are trying to address matters before they become problems. See? Process matters!
What you have my friend is faith - belief not based on proof or evidence. And I would say it is blind because recent sporting evidence is not worthy of any.
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Maybe because he's at.... Villa?
Unless it can be proven that there's another player fighting relegation with a better xG
Just finished work. So all our leads have turned ro dust. Absolute bullshit.
Why do we have to do good business. But never enough business. We always stop short to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
Why do we have to do good business. But never enough business. We always stop short to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory
Maybe with Poch but Jose would chuck them straight inOnly thing if we was to get a player from China wouldn't they have to spend 2 weeks I'm quarantine?
Rose wanted Utd, ended up losing focus, becoming worse and ending up on loan to Newcastle.
Eriksen wanted Bara, ended up losing focus, becoming worse and ending up at Inter.
Toby lost focus, got worse but then was smart enough to make a U turn and now is back playing every week for us.
You can't beat Levy. Better to get with the program.
He's poop soup and I won't hear nothing else!!!!!
He's fine, but I think his best place is a big fish in a small pond. I don't think he is a difference maker for a top side, rotation at best.
You're just kissing up after that previous (Juve?) remark you made. I assume she is the Contessa? You suck up!:mourpoint:
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And throughout that whole time that success was built upon the manager's coaching of players who were mostly here when he got here. Therefore not planning and judgment of the people that remain here now. Very little was done by those people deserving of 'trust'.
Thanks for making my point for me. You should have caught this before sending it out.
No, I reject your premise. I've seen maybe an hour of preseason game of this kid and I bet you've not seen much more. I will be 'honest' and say that no one knows what to expect from this kid and judging from the previous can't-miss-youthers let's say I have my doubts. And I don't trust the assessments of biased, axe-grindy 'academy c*nts' either because in my time they've built up a thousand and almost always been wrong. But they've got 2 thousand excuses as to why and at no point is it "the player wasn't good enough and my previous assessment was shit".
And the whole 'harming his progress' is a bullshit point that is often made by folks hopeful that some future league 1 Bristol or Southend player can make it. If he's good enough he will earn it...like Harry...and Harry...and Tanganga. And you've just written down all those strikers taht were in front of Harry and if you could refresh my memory how'd that work out? Do you know why? Because he was good enough. QED.
Agreed to a point. It is an emergency now whereas planning that would have been worthy of future trust would have prevented such a situation. Constant evolution obviates the need for revolution ie proactive work worthy of trust versus hair-on-fire reactive work worthy of concern and distrust.
I ask you this, how much trust should be engendered in not having a replacement for the physically broken down Dembele? How long did we know of his physical issues?
This is a self-serving take. Ample evidence exists for judgment now. You can judge the process my friend and not just the ultimate result. You think I'm biting on 'ends justifying means' level of thinking? Nope. That
Right here, right now is the result of a fuck up. I would say a big fuck up as well. Poch's firing was the culmination of fuck ups. Last season's league form was a fuck up that folk's whistled past because we got to a CL final. The Sammy-summer was a fuck up. The second half of the season before the Sammy-summer was a fuck up that had many a warning sign but was overlooked. Recent history littered with in process fuck ups yet somehow I'm supposed to blindly offer my trust? Nope.
I would prefer the results being sketchy but the process being perfect. There is a degree of uncertainty in transfers and chance in results. I accept that. But if you get the process right then more often than not the results will favor you. So if a ready to go senior striker were brought in but was shit (eg Willian Jose was brought in in the summer) I would be happier now than a clear fuck up in the process and chasing this guy now because we are up shit's creek. That would engender trust that those in charge recognize/foresee and are trying to address matters before they become problems. See? Process matters!
What you have my friend is faith - belief not based on proof or evidence. And I would say it is blind because recent sporting evidence is not worthy of any.
You make valid points and yes it is all opinion, from both of our sides. You say the reason we did well is because of coaching purely, I think it's a mixture of all levels at the club. Players maturing, investment in those five years consisting of players like Alderweireld, Son, Dele, Wanyama (still gutted about what's happened mate to him) but it's just opinions as we don't know what goes on behind the scenes.
I have faith that we are in decent shape moving forward but we need tweaking and instant investment to lookmafter the short term. We currently have u23 players in our squad we can build around. Walker-Peters, Sanchez, Foyth, Tanganga, Sessegnon, Cirkin, Winks, Skipp, Gedson Fernandes, Ndombele, Lo Celso, Dele, Bergwijn, Clarke, Parrott all young enough to still play for our youth teams that's a healthy situation to add class to, even if a couple don't make it and have to move on.
Soldado, Adebayor and Llorente were absolutely fine as backups to the monster that is Kane. Janssen a punt that didn't need come good but it's a game of opinions as well as facts, we just differ on certain things geezer.
Man U and Spurs offered Willian Jose according to SSN
Is your builder Poch?
Giroud is better than Son/Lucas up top that's all that matters.
Difference is Chelsea hate us much more than Woolwich.
I always like to know what "offered" means. We were sniffing around before what the hell is the difference now?
Just said on sky hull told palace to do one for that price !
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