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Transfers January 2020 transfer thread
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Except we were funding 350m into building a stadium ... a fact you ignore every time ... the accounts show where the money went, it really isn't that hard to look them up
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If your whole argument is based on a lack of knowledge about our finances maybe you should read the accounts first and then realise where you're a bit off. Saves repeating the same mistake over and over.
Hindsight is wonderful, but changes nothing, the last two windows have seen 220m spent, nearly as much as Man Utd and more than City, Liverpool, Woolwich, Chelsea and every other EPL club. Focus on the positives not on the negatives that you can't change anyway ....
I wish we'd signed TAA, Sandro and Haaland for 10m each two years ago ... but that didn't happen either and no amount of wishing will change that.
Yeah, prior to the U16s, then he changed to RB whilst playing for the U16s.He was always highly rated but I have always heard he was a cm at youth level.
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I believe KWP was also an attacking mid in his early years but believe this was prior to the U16s.
Good post but how can you say you like Levy? I'm baffled!
Ok, even if you don't, you don't recall me suggesting or flagging up many other reasonably priced players from France and Germany ? We've even had conversations about them.
But I'm not even sure what this, or your original comment about GLC has to do with the point you are making? In fact it supports my point about what players can achieve if given proper chances to develop, and how we end up then overpaying for that development rather than doing it ourselves.
Sometimes that is a preference or luxury we can afford, but not when that player turns out to be no better than average.
See what you did there...good one..."Championing". In the same way your championing of donkeys like Sissoko raised my expectations and lead to ultimate excruciating disappointment, that kind if championing?
In reality the only thing I'm championing is some common sense where our resources are concerned.
No, we are talking about actions. So we can talk about didn't, because by doing it or not doing it, as opposed to fucking talking about it, is how we actually judge people's true intentions. Poch talked the talk, spent a whole book talking "Brave" about youth, but ultimately couldn't walk what he talked.
So why say it then. Especially strange for someone "championing" Ndong every day, who's made a career of behaving like a cunt.
I'll be there John. At least there will be 2 of us....
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How do we not need a full back, a right back especially with Foyth away to Sampdoria and KWP to Saints?
Aurier's still not reliable enough, with Rose away as well, we do look light at fullback. I don't see it as Tanganga's best position to continue his development.
We're actually slightly weaker again after the window, Bergwijn is an exciting signing, but brand new to English football is always a risk. Let's hope he hits the ground running.
Signings still seem to be about prospective value rather than what the manager particularly wants/needs tbh, which is desperately disappointing after bringing in a manager who has a history of being able to win things when given what he needs.
Aurier's still not reliable enough, with Rose away as well, we do look light at fullback. I don't see it as Tanganga's best position to continue his development.
We're actually slightly weaker again after the window, Bergwijn is an exciting signing, but brand new to English football is always a risk. Let's hope he hits the ground running.
Signings still seem to be about prospective value rather than what the manager particularly wants/needs tbh, which is desperately disappointing after bringing in a manager who has a history of being able to win things when given what he needs.
Did DL not repeat his mantra that the stadium would not affect transfer funds? Answer me that. Would you like me to show the quotes from the ST meetings? And beyond that CL money was not budgeted for the stadium. Are you saying that if I read those accounts that DL assumed qualification and was banking on CL money? Of course not as that would be negligence of the highest regard. So I need not see those accounts because the things I am asking about come directly from the horses mouth and are easily sourced.
And to say that any supporter is somehow ignoring the stadium build is silly. I'm not ignoring it but taking DL at his word it wasn't supposed to matter.
Foyth didn't go to Sampdoria mate. He along with Aurier & Tanganga give us enough depth whilst KWP goes and gets himself minutes to prove he's good enough and us the right to demand a relatively good fee for his abilities.
If we can muster £10m-£15m for him it'll be a great move from our side.
Of course. Sorry I didn't explicitly mention/give you credit for that. Of course you did even if you miss or dismiss some really important ones now playing at Dijon.
The point was/is you ACs are saying now that the youth are a good way to save money blah blah blah. We wasted almost 30M on GLC because of whatever but I don't hear yall banging on about that...that is, if your main concern is a few pounds saved here or there. BuLi.
Not really. He could have had every intention of playing them when risks got tolerable but our early game bumbles never really put games to bed. Still could have had good intentions paving the proverbial road. BuLi.
No 'Brave' complaints here my friend. I'd be the first to pull him up on that as exemplified by the CL final. I want to see some youth players but i also want them to be good. Why aren't you ACs pulling DL up on not investing in actual quality youth players? Why aren't you complaining that we didn't stockpile before Brexit? Is that a harder stone for your axe to find? Don't tell me Poch is just a convenient punching bag for all your youth frustrations.
Still waiting on that list of 'generational world beaters'
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Sorry BC but I'm gonna have to quote
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here...you shut your whore mouth now!!!! Never a bad word should be spoken about The Dong. He was good today. And, career? How about jsut at Sunderland where a court found him innocent of all charges or whatever and hasn't had a problem since. And beyond that Allardyce was interested in having him at CP so perhaps it was all Sunderland's problem. And he's still better than any actual or pretend DM we have in the squad right now. Is it not true? Has he not had problems where he has been? Did the coach at Norwich not address it publicly? Did Poch not address it publicly? The point in bringing it up is to say the kid didn't get his chance because of his behavior and not his ability. Simple.
I think yours & BCs arguments are cute as hell so I don't wish to get in the way of that, but a fair few on here repeatedly insist that DL & ENIC are taking profits out of the club (rather than them being invested in the stadium project and infrastructure). You'd think that would be easily evidenced by the club accounts if this was the case.
Now maybe we did go over budget and it in turn impede our ability to spend during the year that we moved in (or as much as fans had convinced themselves we would during the whole build period), but in the grand scheme of things are Levy's reassurances really a 'crime' worth vociferously clinging to...?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not dismissively saying forget about it, but this broken pledge (for want of a convenient phrasing should one actually deem it that way) is far less severe than much of what casually gets leveled at him by his more vocal detractors.
TLDR? .....You're defending some particularly blinkered people with that comment.
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Yeah, I'm not implying that level of treachery. Thanks for pulling me up on this so I get the chance to be clear.
I'm just saying that money was supposedly there to make a quality addition/year. For me, they own it they can do whatever they want with the profits if that's what they want to do. And if it went all into the stadium then great. My issue is the foresight and planning of the sporting side going amiss and trying to square that with what I was lead to believe of money being there...then where was the f*cking planning. You know? Your points here are why I think
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and I are missing each other. He must think I'm saying what you are implying others have said but I'm not. I'm sort of just bitching that balls were dropped on someone's watch. And I don't exclude Poch potentially protecting favorites or being picky either.DL said it wouldn't and the reality is that we've just spent 220m ... did we have money in 2018? well both Levy and Poch have said we did, so why we didn't spend it only they know, 100% it was a mistake.
You seem to want us to spend 2019 money in 2018 ... possible but unrealistic we simply don't gamble our future like that, if you want to go with your take on interpretation of media coverage rather than what DL actually said ... OK that's your call.
But if you listen to what Levy said in 2019 - "With a debt of £637m, subject to reasonable assumption on interest rates, the net spend on players would not be affected"
and back in 2016 "no player will be sold to fund the stadium…[and] said the intention is to strengthen the squad and to do so as early as possible"
Real quotes not media flannel ...... he has according to his words stuck by what he said.
I'm not arguing at all that under the transfer panel in 2018 we screwed up severely, I'm just not at all convinced this was down to money, all the evidence shows we had money (about 120m) available why we didn't spend it seems down to poor management rather than austerity ... but who truly knows.
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If SB is better than DB how come we sold SE cheap and then DR but did not buy TS instead of SD?
I don’t agree with that John. His relaxed demeanour suggests to me that he’s got the hierarchy’s backing. And unless we lose every game 5-0 he’ll get a pass.
And the DWP took away his disability allowance after they saw him score a charity penalty at half-time during a cup final.Tommy Smith
It remains, to this day, the only recorded case where a scouser failed to beat the system - although he did beat the keeper (bottom left iirc). Martin Peters (RIP) was terrified of him.
He's played left back for Belgium over 100 times, the FIFA ranked number one Country in the world ... think that probably qualifies him as a specialist ... surprised you and all the agrees didn't know that.
I knew he was on crutches but didn't realise that he lost his benefit fucking hilarious
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