This is how agents have ruined the game over the years. They prey on other people's talent whilst doing absolutely nothing themselves. Leeches, every last one of them.
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Transfers January 2022 - Transfer Window
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I've already countered this with the West Ham and Leicester examples so it can't be wages because both teams pay less than us.
I don't understand your point about Leicester in relation to the context of the debate? What do you mean pulling up trees - we're talking about their off the field success with their transfer dealings and you'll notice that they've finished ahead of us twice in the last couple of seasons
Most recently for West Ham over the last couple of seasons - Bowen, Coufal, Soucek, Benrahma, Zouma - all have improved their team, we haven't had that kind of level of success out of any of our recent signings, comes down to one thing.
I’m a little perplexed why the elite tier aren’t all over him tbh
Conte calls on Tottenham to address Kane back-up transfer problem
Antonio Conte says Tottenham must sign another centre-forward at a similar level to Harry Kane if they want to compete for silverware.
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Antonio Conte says Tottenham must sign another centre-forward at a similar level to Harry Kane if they want to compete for silverware.
Conte held a frank meeting with chairman Daniel Levy and managing director Fabio Paratici on Monday to deliver his assessment of the squad and discuss January targets.
It is understood the trio made a new forward, right wing-back and midfielder the priorities, while a number of fringe players are available to leave.
Dele Alli and Bryan Gil deputised up front in Sunday’s comeback win over Morecambe, but Kane had to come off the bench — along with Lucas Moura and Oliver Skipp — to rescue a toothless second string from an embarrassing FA Cup exit.
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Kane should return to the line-up for tonight’s Carabao Cup semi-final decider at home against Chelsea, with Spurs trailing 2-0 from the first leg.
There has long been a perception that finding an understudy for Kane is a near-impossible task, given his quality and desire to play every game.
Spurs, who have been linked with Fiorentina striker Dusan Vlahovic, have started three of the last seven seasons with just one senior striker.
But Conte said: “Especially in this League, because the level is very high and you have to play a lot of games, if you want to have ambition, to be competitive, to fight for something important, you have to have 20 players — two players in every role.
“For sure, as a coach it’s very difficult to decide to keep Harry on the bench. But at the same time, when you play the way we played in the last period — six games in 17 days — every coach has to have the possibility to make rotations without the level [of the team] dropping so much. Otherwise it’s difficult for the coach to make rotations because you want the best.
“You have to know that if you want to be competitive, you need a couple of players for every role. And between the player who usually plays, and the other player, the gap has to be not so big in every role. This is a problem for all the teams.”
Last season, Carlos Vinicius deputised for Kane, but the Benfica loanee never looked of the required standard in domestic matches.
Fernando Llorente and Vincent Janssen also struggled, making Heung-min Son — who is sidelined for the rest of the month with a hamstring injury — Kane’s most effective understudy.
“For sure, it’s not easy,” Conte said. “In case Harry has a problem — and I hope that never happens — there’s Steven Bergwijn I can play at No9. He has the right characteristics. It’s not simple to find a specific No9 but if you’re unable to buy players for the moment you want to rest Harry, you can take the best decision to play with a good player.”
i was responding to someone else , you stepped in and said West Ham , Utd and Woolwich are our competition for Top 4
Lets leave West Ham out as I was being facetious, ENIC are better than Sullivan and Gold
However Woolwich and United fans loathe their owners for a lack of success in recent years let’s say 7-10 years , 7 being United post Fergie
However they have still been more successful than us, Woolwich 3 FA cups I think to our big fat zero.
My point is why should Spurs fans not want ENIC out , why are we expected to be more tolerant of failure than other fans
They have had 21 years to rectify our scouting and academy failings for example , it is still not fit for purpose , so yes I would prefer if they sold up
i'm not so sure that's the reason as some of the wages we pay are in the higher percentages of the league. I personally feel it's more likely the payment structures that are the historical problem.
If you have a top player lots of clubs are after, then it's likely you will get a lot of the money upfront and can call the shots on payment terms. If however there is less demand then a deal can be structured to suit the purchasing club and i get the distinct feeling this is the zone we find ourselves in. So it's not necessarily the budget or salaries that limit the pool of players we can pick from but the structure of the deals.
From the outside looking in I still get the impression this is the case, however the new 'loan before you buy' has been introduced to limit the exposure. It might mean we're actually willing to play a wedge more on the actual transfer fee if the player turns out to be decent. For the selling club, if they have confidence in the player they stand to make considerably more money.
They'll never sing that
Haaland, Mbappe are the elite targets that will make the noise in the summer
City have actually been linked with him but I think they want Haaland and are waiting to see what he does before they look at Vlahovic.
It's not a bad deal for them, it's an obligation meaning we have to pay in the summer, it would be worse for them if it was an option.
I think he’s Old Bill
And I countered that neither West ham nor Leicester as as good as you think nor are their players any better. They've both been better coached than we have for a few years but they'll both be below us come May this year.
Sure but I’m sure they would prefer 20M now
I have no desire to be in the stadium currently thanks to covid concerns attached a pre-existing health concern. Otherwise, yes I do go to games.
Do you? .....Frankly I don't care.
What i choose to do with my personal time is neither here nor there.
I was right....... We're done and you really are wasting both of our time.
Especially if there's any truth in Chelsea sniffing. They don't pay back 50p a week.
Shadydan
- that's another thing that your basic figures don't show - payment structure.From an accounting perspective the value of the six month time difference in payment is trivially easy to calculate.
Arguments about timing are just arguments about money, functionally speaking.
Actually it was me that said it. Based on the league table halfway through the season anyway, though not sure if that counts as a decent barometer of which teams are at what levels. Maybe the league league table does lie after all?
Wages off the table and guaranteed £20m in the summer v paying him for another 6 months and then selling him for less. Would be a purely financial appeal for them.
Absolutely they would, but if Traore wants to come to us and isn’t considering any alternatives they might not have much said other than ‘fuck it, we’re keeping him till summer and hoping for the best’.
I deal in facts not subjective opinions, both teams have been better than us recently off the pitch hence why they have finished above us [a fact] (Leicester twice and West Ham once) Both clubs have shown that they've recruited better than us.
I don't think this is a particularly difficult concept to grasp but you seem to be struggling with it.
Obviosuly now we have an elite coach and hoping that the strategy is changing with us having a DOF who is a direct line to Levy from Conte thing ought to get better off the pitch and I expect us to be pushing top 4 and to finish above those teams.
Especially if there's any truth in Chelsea sniffing. They don't pay back 50p a week.
ok?