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Transfers January 2023 Transfer Thread. The Big One

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Theoretically, yes.
But when the price is a release clause or a demand which is absurdly high then, in practice, it isn’t the case. PLUS the player may reject a move

Yep; it's more than the size of their chequebook preventing Brighton signing Mbappe.

.....And there's a reason our 60m would never have bought us Haaland this past summer.
 
I understand what you are saying. But I do not agree*.

I personally rather see players played out of position and taking more risks with players from academy or whatever. Or alternatively even overpaying for someone who would be a better fit. Because availability is ALWAYS matter of price. Every player for every club can be brought for some kind of money.

I just mean that if you buy a player that is available, but expected to be backup from the start, it likely means following -
- he does not get a lot of playing time
- which means he does not develop or learn as much as with more playing time
- which means his value will most likely drop
- for a new player we have to offer reasonably long contract - say 3 years is minimum and that means we do take significant obligation
- now if previous points both happen, it means we have player with declining value and long contract with most likely considerable wages - and that ties your hands for say 3 years.

It is not problem for likes of ManU, ManCity or PSG. They have money-printers in basement. But more limited your resources are, less reasonable it would be to buy player who does not fit and for half of the season hinder your resources for three years.

* well, of course actually life is scale not binary - and in some situations life might force your hand bit more and actually this available player could be bit more or bit less suitable; so not meant as absolute statement to never buy player who would not be fully perfect. Not am I saying with this that Malinovsky would be awful purchase either.

I think we are probably pretty much in violent agreement.

Malinovsky is not ideal in terms of age, playing wise he's not bad, and would not be an awful purchase, but if we can get better without breaking the bank I'm all in favour - I think we could afford to spend say £150m in January and summer jointly so cash is not a constraint per se.
 
I think we are probably pretty much in violent agreement.

Malinovsky is not ideal in terms of age, playing wise he's not bad, and would not be an awful purchase, but if we can get better without breaking the bank I'm all in favour - I think we could afford to spend say £150m in January and summer jointly so cash is not a constraint per se.

Re: RW - Would you rather wait til summer..... Or roll with a 29 y/o that has the approval of Conte & the DOF?
 
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Re: RW - Would you rather wait til summer..... Or roll with a 29y/o that has the approval of Conte & the DOF?

As our current forwards are Kane, Son, Richarlison, Kulusevski (4 players) with Moura (not that useful ) and Gil (not that trusted, can be knocked off ball) I think we were finding ourselves a little short of quality alternatives even before Richarlison, Kulusevski and now Son injuries,

IMO the RW creative position is the one position where we are one player short of a quality alternative which is really hurting us now. Hence if Conte thinks 29yearold Malinovsky is the best option available and wants him, I'd take him.

In other parts of the squad, if we can upgrade with an available quality player in January, we can do it or wait until summer. I think waiting for the RW until summer is too risky.
 
Re: RW - Would you rather wait til summer..... Or roll with a 29 y/o that has the approval of Conte & the DOF?
Buying a 29yr old isn't my cup of tea but if Conte thinks he can help us then so be it.

It just seems to me that Conte isn't looking very far into the future, that's my beef with it, as you know, I don't think he will be around long.
 
Buying a 29yr old isn't my cup of tea but if Conte thinks he can help us then so be it.

It just seems to me that Conte isn't looking very far into the future, that's my beef with it, as you know, I don't think he will be around long.

The big fear with appointing Conte is that when he left we'd have a squad of ageing players.

But whilst we have brought in older players like Perisic who will probably only be good for 2 years (although if we are lucky it might be 5 years), Paratici has brought in younger quality players too such as Kulusevski, Bentancur and Richarlison and even a couple of young 'punts' in Gil and Sarr.

So I'm more relaxed in bringing in the odd older player if we also get the majority being top class (not necessarily world class but often a step below) at a younger age - preferably below age 26). Hopefully the older ones on frees or low fees on relatively short term contracts of 1/2/3 years.
 
Buying a 29yr old isn't my cup of tea but if Conte thinks he can help us then so be it.

It just seems to me that Conte isn't looking very far into the future, that's my beef with it, as you know, I don't think he will be around long.
The big fear with appointing Conte is that when he left we'd have a squad of ageing players.

........So far, the only player we've signed over 25 is Perisic. Whilst Gil, Sarr, Spence, Udogie & Kulu were all 21 or under.


If we get a 2/3 good years out of Malinovsky then I don't see the age thing as being an issue.... We're not gonna give him a 5/6 year deal or pay him massive wages.
 
The big fear with appointing Conte is that when he left we'd have a squad of ageing players.

But whilst we have brought in older players like Perisic who will probably only be good for 2 years (although if we are lucky it might be 5 years), Paratici has brought in younger quality players too such as Kulusevski, Bentancur and Richarlison and even a couple of young 'punts' in Gil and Sarr.

So I'm more relaxed in bringing in the odd older player if we also get the majority being top class (not necessarily world class but often a step below) at a younger age - preferably below age 26). Hopefully the older ones on frees or low fees on relatively short term contracts of 1/2/3 years.

We've been unlucky with so many forwards injured at the same time, thing is when they're fit what happens to Malinovsky then?
 
........So far, the only player we've signed over 25 is Perisic. Whilst Gil, Sarr, Spence, Udogie & Kulu were all 21 or under.


If we get a 2/3 good years out of Malinovsky then I don't see the age thing as being an issue.... We're not gonna give him a 5/6 year deal or pay him massive wages.
So we could view him as an upgrade on Lucas but about the same age.
 
As our current forwards are Kane, Son, Richarlison, Kulusevski (4 players) with Moura (not that useful ) and Gil (not that trusted, can be knocked off ball) I think we were finding ourselves a little short of quality alternatives even before Richarlison, Kulusevski and now Son injuries,

IMO the RW creative position is the one position where we are one player short of a quality alternative which is really hurting us now. Hence if Conte thinks 29yearold Malinovsky is the best option available and wants him, I'd take him.

In other parts of the squad, if we can upgrade with an available quality player in January, we can do it or wait until summer. I think waiting for the RW until summer is too risky.
To my knowledge, Malinovsky has never been employed as an RWB in his senior career (I may be wrong)...
Besides, he's a left-footer and I don't think he's as good with both feet as Perisic is.
 
What about Ismaila Sarr from watford? He was pretty exciting last year in the prem and is a left footed right winger. Pacy and only 24 with PL experience
 
Malinovksi seems like fake news.

We would have got him in the summer if we really wanted him as we still had no Kulu cover at that point (Rich was never a fit for RW).

He is probs 3/4th option.

According to Ali G (for what it's worth) January will be about quality over quantity. Adding Malinovski to our group of forwards will not have a huge impact on our fortunes.

Sure he's probably a better option than Lucas or Gil out there but we should be aiming higher than that.
 
Malinovksi seems like fake news.

We would have got him in the summer if we really wanted him as we still had no Kulu cover at that point (Rich was never a fit for RW).

He is probs 3/4th option.

According to Ali G (for what it's worth) January will be about quality over quantity. Adding Malinovski to our group of forwards will not have a huge impact on our fortunes.

Sure he's probably a better option than Lucas or Gil out there but we should be aiming higher than that.
Probably an Amrabat. Paying 13 million Euro for a bloke with 6 months on his contract is not likely.
 
I think we are probably pretty much in violent agreement.

Malinovsky is not ideal in terms of age, playing wise he's not bad, and would not be an awful purchase, but if we can get better without breaking the bank I'm all in favour - I think we could afford to spend say £150m in January and summer jointly so cash is not a constraint per se.

Yea, I think we are.

But I would assume that across 2 windows we might even be looking for bigger investment.
Though there are some potential departures on cards who could fund further investment as well... say 60 mil of sales and then 210 mil of expenditure across two windows might be doable...
 
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