Not looked standout anytime I've seen him in the last year but held his own playing in a back 5 for his national team. Think the excitement was that he was playing international games so young.
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Transfers January 2023 Transfer Thread. The Big One
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The financial results next month will show it, 60k in the stadium every week, £7 pound plus for a pint, hundreds of millions tv money. If Porro is a player Conte wants for rwb he should have been in the picture to start vs Woolwich on Sunday.
Barca probably set their values that high so they can use them as collateral to “pull another lever”.
Exactly.
There's a time to haggle, that time isn't when you're mid season, can't win a game and top 4 is still achievable if you can turn it round. We have a dearth of quality at RWB & if the club believe Porro fixes that then 45m is an entirely fair fee.
We act like we have a strong hand to play when we don't, they don't need to sell & don't want to, it is mid season.
Be nice if the people running our club could quit pulling their own levers and get some business done before the 31st January!
Similar to how some people see the words release clause and assume you can only sign a player for that amount, Levy must see the word deadline day and assume you can only sign players on that day...
Chill out man, it's only a months worth of fixtures we're sacrificing to save a few quid...
I genuinely can’t be arsed on this one as obviously you can negotiate for any player.
As it happens, I expect that the fundamental problem with this deal is the liquid cash that is needed to pay a release clause, not the overall value.
But, value really *is* set by the selling club and, in this instance, they don’t have more leverage, they have *all* the leverage. And you can be damn well sure that Daniel will set Harry’s price at his value to Spurs, rather than some amorphous idea of what a 30 year old striker is worth on the open market. Sadly however, we have no leverage.
I don’t care if we sign Porro. Already bored of hearing his name. Either pay or or move on. This brinkmanship is fucking tedious.
ok, I understand what you're saying. And certainly £10m isn't chump change but at £35m I would expect this lad to be a first team player and not a punt. So he's either good enough at £35m or he's not.
I'm not arguing the fact of whether he's good value, and whether we should just pay said fee
It's a report.
So were Woolwich wrong in seeking to establish a valuation for Mudryk?
There is and has to be a balance.
If not we could have spent 75 million on Ndombele, with all the accusations that would have followed.
We act as though this Sporting Lisbon player will transform us or that we should satisfy Conte's needs regardless of cost.
Fcuking joke.
There’s no amorphous idea of the market. There’s the value at which buying clubs are willing to buy and selling clubs are willing to sell.
I don’t want to be rude but if you’re getting exasperated at hearing about Porro then stop reading tweets with amorphous transfer speculation.
It does in this fucking situation because we're absolutely desperate and the selling club aren't, so we may as well be running in to a brick wall repeatedly for all the good "negotiating" is going to do. Meanwhile the clock ticks, we fall further behind fourth, and Conte gets more exasperated with how this club is ran.
But yeah, let's put on our poker faces and pretend that we're not in a state, that our RWB options aren't footballs answer to the chuckle brothers, and that we're not a very wealthy Premier League club who are expected to pay like the rest of the very rich premier league clubs do.
Woolwich also didn’t pay for Mudryk. They didn’t just stump up and pay like a big club and were outbid by the team in 10th.
The team in 10th who acted like a big club in the summer and bought Fofana for 80m, cucurella for 65m, Sterling for 55m and koulibaly for 38m. That’s a net spend of over 300m. Have those big money signings guaranteed results in the short term?
In the longer term I’d expect those signings to look better than they do but overpaying for Porro now is unlikely to be the magic wand for the rest of our season.
A) The Mudryk fee was about twice as much, at which point you can say you're entering the territory of the signing being EXTREMELY high risk. 45M for one of the bigger talents at RWB on the market as a January purchase is not in that category.
B) Woolwich are top of the league, have backed their manager to the hilt and so aren't in a situation of desperation. Their options on the wing are Martinelli & Saka, Mudryk would just have complimented this. Our RWB options are Doherty and Emerson, we NEED Porro.
Said that weeks ago and got shouted downWe’re not going to sign anyone, are we.
Because they didn't need Mudryk. You can afford to walk away or negotiate when you don't need a player to come in. His price-tag was also twice as much, if we were facing that kind of fee then the attitude would be different. I understood, for example, why we didn't just 'pay the fee' for Gvardiol. Woolwich not paying that much when they have quality in that position is sensible.
Us not paying half as much for a player in a position where we have zero quality isn't sensible, it's just putting the balance sheets ahead of the pitch once again.
True but with young players it frequently does not work out like that, if you buy for 10m then 50 million seems a healthy buy out , a young player can develop beyond that on occasion
Like we needed Bissouma and whoever else.
No fvukomg guarantees on anything and not a case of they ask we pay. That's the way to financial difficulties and being mugged off each and every time.
Right, let's just not sign players then. Bissouma was about 30m, he was an opportunist signing due to the controversies surrounding him, not a big money splash.
And yeah yeah .. .let's not do a Leeds, financial difficulties etc etc. The clubs around us all operate in this way and hey presto, the clubs around us are all more successful than we are. When you have a position of need in a desperate situation, you pay.
Ok then.
Let’s not overpay as it’s a risk. Fair enough.
Instead, let’s just risk a key position in the team, our manager’s position at the club, our final league position and CL qualification.
There is not one other club on earth for whom Porro would be their primary target at 35m plus add ons plus a 20% diminution of Marcus Edwards' sell-on clause who would not have just dropped the 45m and had Porro training with them on Jan 1. End of. The actual figures involved betray the Levybot troll on this one.