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Transfers January Transfer Thread 24/25

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Maybe I could give another take on Villa and their owners.

They are prepared to gamble/take incredibly high risks with relatively low odds that Villa either get enough revenue (mainly from european competition) to over come psr, or if they do not that they pay huge fines for failing psr.

For reference, when they first bought club, Villa were in Championship. They gambled by not selling Grealish to Spurs (agreed with old owner at £30m plus add ons) that with Grealish in the Villa side that they get into PL (worth £100m+ , but odds of getting out of Championship were not high). They did get out of Championship and then sold Grealish for £100m to ManCity to help rebuild their side. The huge gamble paid off enormously. And they are continuing with high risk strategies now.
I think their end game is waiting out PSR to die. They are only passing now due to a few suspicious deals, I don't see where their growth to compete with own revenues comes from.
 
Maybe I could give another take on Villa and their owners.

They are prepared to gamble/take incredibly high risks with relatively low odds that Villa either get enough revenue (mainly from european competition) to over come psr, or if they do not that they pay huge fines for failing psr.

For reference, when they first bought club, Villa were in Championship. They gambled by not selling Grealish to Spurs (agreed with old owner at £30m plus add ons) that with Grealish in the Villa side that they get into PL (worth £100m+ , but odds of getting out of Championship were not high). They did get out of Championship and then sold Grealish for £100m to ManCity to help rebuild their side. The huge gamble paid off enormously. And they are continuing with high risk strategies now.
They have done well to get from the championship to where they are now but tbh I don't rate Villa in the slightest.
If Spurs got Rashford, Ascensio and Disasi in this window we would all be fuming. Their revenue to wages for the quality of players they have is absolutely mental and that project will fall in the next year or two for sure.
They got the CL last year because we were shit essentially as were the other teams who should be challenging for it.

Despite our crap league season I would take our future above theirs in a heartbeat.
 
With Mason Melia coming in and Veliz probably being sold this summer, when Romero leaves us, we will have no argentinians. First time in a long time. We need to find some argentinians. Whats Federico Redondos son up to? I remember he was an up and coming CDM?
In the MLS with the dwarf twat. Not really pulling up any trees.

Be good to sign some Englishmen first...or give Archie that DM post.
 
Many of us follow England Youth games, McAtee is a podium level talent, easily stands out amongst many others who are quickly rated as £50m+ players like Dibling and Gittens.

Sadly, we likely can’t get him, but I think he is a much nearer cert than almost all U21’s down (Moore is exquisite potential, but too young to know if his game matures, as it should).

English youth is a ridiculous talent factory these past 5years now.

Absolutely correct.

There has been a steady stream of young English players going to play at european clubs, which really got under way with Jaen Sancho going from ManCity to Dortmund as City wouldn't play him - and the reason why Dortmund were interested is that the PL academies are churning out many times the number of high class talent than any of the european club equivalent academies. And there is the chance the european clubs can cash in by selling a more developed youngster back to PL for a high price as Dortmund did selling Sancho to ManU.

Incidentally Spurs tried to get Sancho bundled in as part of deal of Walker going to ManCity but ManCity refused.

Spurs academy has rebounded after Poch's 'no loan ' and rarely playing youngsters policy followed by Conte's hatred of anything other than tried and tested veteran players (Mourhino to be fair helped our youth), and we have a conveyor belt of players coming through now, and although not necessarily world class, I think a number are good enough to be squad players and as List B/Club trained or u21's add numbers to our squad too. A short list of the players who might fit into the squad over the next year or two :

Alfie Devine (age 20) - 2 years on loan currently at Championship level club in Belgium. Better as a deep lying midfield player, can play AM too. Versatile mid who could play either Bissouma or Bentancur type roles

Jamie Donley (age 19) - first year at L1 Orient but absolutely killing it now after being the GOAT for Spurs u21's who won PL2 last year. Scores and creates assists for fun - ideal understudy for Madison and Kulusevski.

George Abbott (age 19) - Captained Spurs u21's to PL2 victory last year as RB where overlooked a bit for the other stars. This season at L2 Notts County he's become one of their top players taking them from near bottom of division into play off places. Their fans hope to keep him in L1 next season although already Champioship clubs are looking at him. Plays DM for Notts County but can get forward - 4 goals and 3 assists so far - plus can play full back either side.

Ashley Phillips (Age 19) - Played in Championship for 2 seasons as CB (usually not a position for youngsters) , currently Stoke fans think he's their best CB and one of best in Chamopionship. E u19 captain

Luka Vuskovic (age 17) - Tearing up the Belgian top division where he's widely thought to be best CB in the division, not to mention his ability to score 6 goals in 22 matches so far. Given his youth it maybe better to give him a season in Championship before coming to Spurs, but a great decision to have

And that's on top of Mikey Moore (still only 17) who is starting a few games now and will only improve next season at Spurs with strikers Dane Scarlett and Will Lankshear both still developing.

And in younger age groups, a few more coming through who may get sub opportunities but are a year or two away from joining the above list.

We will have 3 Club Trained positions to fill (Austin fills the 4th) in uefa squads and can have unlimited List B players, so in short term its easy to see maybe 4 or so youngsters in squad who can gradually be developed (as Gray and Begvall have in first half of season) to add genuine quality but also shear numbers to avoid the worst of an injury crisis like we have had this season. So there's genuine reasons to develop our own youth - and once every few years we have a chance of finding a world class player.
 
Absolutely correct.

There has been a steady stream of young English players going to play at european clubs, which really got under way with Jaen Sancho going from ManCity to Dortmund as City wouldn't play him - and the reason why Dortmund were interested is that the PL academies are churning out many times the number of high class talent than any of the european club equivalent academies. And there is the chance the european clubs can cash in by selling a more developed youngster back to PL for a high price as Dortmund did selling Sancho to ManU.

Incidentally Spurs tried to get Sancho bundled in as part of deal of Walker going to ManCity but ManCity refused.

Spurs academy has rebounded after Poch's 'no loan ' and rarely playing youngsters policy followed by Conte's hatred of anything other than tried and tested veteran players (Mourhino to be fair helped our youth), and we have a conveyor belt of players coming through now, and although not necessarily world class, I think a number are good enough to be squad players and as List B/Club trained or u21's add numbers to our squad too. A short list of the players who might fit into the squad over the next year or two :

Alfie Devine (age 20) - 2 years on loan currently at Championship level club in Belgium. Better as a deep lying midfield player, can play AM too. Versatile mid who could play either Bissouma or Bentancur type roles

Jamie Donley (age 19) - first year at L1 Orient but absolutely killing it now after being the GOAT for Spurs u21's who won PL2 last year. Scores and creates assists for fun - ideal understudy for Madison and Kulusevski.

George Abbott (age 19) - Captained Spurs u21's to PL2 victory last year as RB where overlooked a bit for the other stars. This season at L2 Notts County he's become one of their top players taking them from near bottom of division into play off places. Their fans hope to keep him in L1 next season although already Champioship clubs are looking at him. Plays DM for Notts County but can get forward - 4 goals and 3 assists so far - plus can play full back either side.

Ashley Phillips (Age 19) - Played in Championship for 2 seasons as CB (usually not a position for youngsters) , currently Stoke fans think he's their best CB and one of best in Chamopionship. E u19 captain

Luka Vuskovic (age 17) - Tearing up the Belgian top division where he's widely thought to be best CB in the division, not to mention his ability to score 6 goals in 22 matches so far. Given his youth it maybe better to give him a season in Championship before coming to Spurs, but a great decision to have

And that's on top of Mikey Moore (still only 17) who is starting a few games now and will only improve next season at Spurs with strikers Dane Scarlett and Will Lankshear both still developing.

And in younger age groups, a few more coming through who may get sub opportunities but are a year or two away from joining the above list.

We will have 3 Club Trained positions to fill (Austin fills the 4th) in uefa squads and can have unlimited List B players, so in short term its easy to see maybe 4 or so youngsters in squad who can gradually be developed (as Gray and Begvall have in first half of season) to add genuine quality but also shear numbers to avoid the worst of an injury crisis like we have had this season. So there's genuine reasons to develop our own youth - and once every few years we have a chance of finding a world class player.
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Absolutely correct.

There has been a steady stream of young English players going to play at european clubs, which really got under way with Jaen Sancho going from ManCity to Dortmund as City wouldn't play him - and the reason why Dortmund were interested is that the PL academies are churning out many times the number of high class talent than any of the european club equivalent academies. And there is the chance the european clubs can cash in by selling a more developed youngster back to PL for a high price as Dortmund did selling Sancho to ManU.

Incidentally Spurs tried to get Sancho bundled in as part of deal of Walker going to ManCity but ManCity refused.

Spurs academy has rebounded after Poch's 'no loan ' and rarely playing youngsters policy followed by Conte's hatred of anything other than tried and tested veteran players (Mourhino to be fair helped our youth), and we have a conveyor belt of players coming through now, and although not necessarily world class, I think a number are good enough to be squad players and as List B/Club trained or u21's add numbers to our squad too. A short list of the players who might fit into the squad over the next year or two :

Alfie Devine (age 20) - 2 years on loan currently at Championship level club in Belgium. Better as a deep lying midfield player, can play AM too. Versatile mid who could play either Bissouma or Bentancur type roles

Jamie Donley (age 19) - first year at L1 Orient but absolutely killing it now after being the GOAT for Spurs u21's who won PL2 last year. Scores and creates assists for fun - ideal understudy for Madison and Kulusevski.

George Abbott (age 19) - Captained Spurs u21's to PL2 victory last year as RB where overlooked a bit for the other stars. This season at L2 Notts County he's become one of their top players taking them from near bottom of division into play off places. Their fans hope to keep him in L1 next season although already Champioship clubs are looking at him. Plays DM for Notts County but can get forward - 4 goals and 3 assists so far - plus can play full back either side.

Ashley Phillips (Age 19) - Played in Championship for 2 seasons as CB (usually not a position for youngsters) , currently Stoke fans think he's their best CB and one of best in Chamopionship. E u19 captain

Luka Vuskovic (age 17) - Tearing up the Belgian top division where he's widely thought to be best CB in the division, not to mention his ability to score 6 goals in 22 matches so far. Given his youth it maybe better to give him a season in Championship before coming to Spurs, but a great decision to have

And that's on top of Mikey Moore (still only 17) who is starting a few games now and will only improve next season at Spurs with strikers Dane Scarlett and Will Lankshear both still developing.

And in younger age groups, a few more coming through who may get sub opportunities but are a year or two away from joining the above list.

We will have 3 Club Trained positions to fill (Austin fills the 4th) in uefa squads and can have unlimited List B players, so in short term its easy to see maybe 4 or so youngsters in squad who can gradually be developed (as Gray and Begvall have in first half of season) to add genuine quality but also shear numbers to avoid the worst of an injury crisis like we have had this season. So there's genuine reasons to develop our own youth - and once every few years we have a chance of finding a world class player.

Add to this list:

Olusesi, Ajayi and Tyrese Hall in terms of already having first team involvement. Leo Black is a name you hear a lot too.

Then we signed the Irish striker this window and I thought we already picked up a different Irish kid before? The other 2 new kids from Chelsea and Liverpool are meant to be good prospects as well.

Luca Williams-Barnett is younger but rated like Mikey Moore level talent as well.

Can't remember the last time the academy/youth products had this many names with people talking about them regularly.
 
Fuck it, bring in Pogba from March til June. Pay as you play deal...30 or 40% of what he was on at United/Juve, with some nice incentives. Tell him he does well and no off field shit, he gets a juicy 3-yead deal.

He's still a cracking player on his day and he's been keeping fit with a personal trainer, plus he seems to have sorted his entourage out.

Archie and Bergvall would look up to him and learn lots from him. Marketing wise it'd be a win too and we know how much our Dear Leader loves a commercial boost.
 
Gomes-Free...... Bissouma out
Mainoo-45-50m....Bentancur out
David-Free..... Richy Out
Guehi - 70-75m....Romero out

Improvements and 40-60m in the bank
Mainoo and Gomes in the Midfield would be superb together, Guehi is the best defender in England possibly Europe at the moment
David gives the option of working wide and cutting inside or all out striker if Fom is injured.
Dreaming of the summer
 
Gomes-Free...... Bissouma out
Mainoo-45-50m....Bentancur out
David-Free..... Richy Out
Guehi - 70-75m....Romero out

Improvements and 40-60m in the bank
Mainoo and Gomes in the Midfield would be superb together, Guehi is the best defender in England possibly Europe at the moment
David gives the option of working wide and cutting inside or all out striker if Fom is injured.
Dreaming of the summer
Guehi wont come to us. Chelsea written all over him. Paratici needs to find another defender fo us in Italy. Italian game is renowned for defending.
 


Comes across well.

Dad a spurs fan.

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Fuck it, bring in Pogba from March til June. Pay as you play deal...30 or 40% of what he was on at United/Juve, with some nice incentives. Tell him he does well and no off field shit, he gets a juicy 3-yead deal.

He's still a cracking player on his day and he's been keeping fit with a personal trainer, plus he seems to have sorted his entourage out.

Archie and Bergvall would look up to him and learn lots from him. Marketing wise it'd be a win too and we know how much our Dear Leader loves a commercial boost.

His entourage are in court for kidnapping and trying to extort him.
 
Gomes-Free...... Bissouma out
Mainoo-45-50m....Bentancur out
David-Free..... Richy Out
Guehi - 70-75m....Romero out

Improvements and 40-60m in the bank
Mainoo and Gomes in the Midfield would be superb together, Guehi is the best defender in England possibly Europe at the moment
David gives the option of working wide and cutting inside or all out striker if Fom is injured.
Dreaming ofthe summer
You think Guehi is better than, just off the top of my head, VVD, Saliba, Gabriel, Murillo?
 
Guehi wont come to us. Chelsea written all over him. Paratici needs to find another defender fo us in Italy. Italian game is renowned for defending.
I'm not sure he wouldn't, if we pitch it right.
We are struggling at the moment but the youth we are developing is better than most... Vuskovic looks really special... If Chelski don't blow us out the water with ridiculous wages, our project might just swing it our way.
I'm just saying he would be my choice, there's no one else in Europe at the moment that would tell me, yeah we're serious...than Guehi at the moment
 
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