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Management Johan Lange - Technical Director

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The key to this is to be honest about what we don’t know.

It’s clearly a system with many different people involved and we don’t have lot of insight. There’s no way to see behind the curtain.

I think the biggest mistake was hiring Frank. He was the wrong choice. Managerial appointments are difficult.

Money spent this season

Woolwich - €295m (4 signings above 50m)
Chelsea - €339 (3)
Liverpool - €482m (3)
Man City - €305m (2)
Man Utd - €337m (3)
Tottenham - €265 (2)

So the other big 6 clubs spent anywhere between 11% and 82% more than us. And this repeats year after year.

Do you think that is Lange’s fault? Do you think hes given more money to spend and chooses not to spend it?

Now when we look at wages the closest club is Chelsea who spend 25% more than us. Everyone else spends more than that.

So these are the facts and my INFERENCE is that Lange is not responsible for the difference in spending on transfer fees and wages and so the pool of players is limited.

How do you make lemonade from lemons? Well I think his strategy of trying to sign the best young players he can is smart given the constraints he is dealing with . Nearly every signing is 18-24. Many have a lot of experience given their age and have high upside.

But there is no way to compete with clubs in the short term when other clubs will spend more on transfer fees and wages year after year (without a lot of luck).

The idea that other clubs spending more is kinda weak...Plenty of teams with less money build more coherent squads...this is my issue, it's not about what we spend it's always been how we spend it - has Lange improved on that since he's been around? You'd have to say so far, no. Villa and Newcastle have both recruited better than us yet pay less wages so that's not an excuse.

What is Lange's job?, is it just to recruit players or is it also his job to build an adequate squad and seek out the right profiles we need to improve us because from where I am he hasn't done any of these. This is my biggest issue with Lange we have had a load of holes in our squad that needs plugging yet there's 0 evidence of any joined up thinking in terms of recruitment, for example things like not recruiting another LCB to cover or push VDV, not recruiting a LB for 3 years, the failure in profiling a passing mid, the failure in not recruiting a LW, the over reliance of ball carrying midfielders etc...This is why by the way I fully believe that he turned to Gallagher when he couldn't get Jones out of Liverpool because it aligns with our transfer strategy of not really having any consistency.

I don't like the fact that he has seemingly ignored our injury crisis which has been happening over the past few years, you can't stop injuries happening but you can do your best to manage the situation and I don't believe the club or he has done that very well.

For a club to put out there and send the message stating we want to 'compete on all fronts' how can you look at this squad and think that's any way true - this is what I judge him off by the way, the state of the squad doesn't even allow us to compete in 2 competitions let alone 4 - This is why I question the decision to buy kids, if your sole focus is buying 18-24 year olds it's contradictory to the statement of competing.
 
The idea that other clubs spending more is kinda weak...Plenty of teams with less money build more coherent squads...this is my issue, it's not about what we spend it's always been how we spend it - has Lange improved on that since he's been around? You'd have to say so far, no. Villa and Newcastle have both recruited better than us yet pay less wages so that's not an excuse.

What is Lange's job?, is it just to recruit players or is it also his job to build an adequate squad and seek out the right profiles we need to improve us because from where I am he hasn't done any of these. This is my biggest issue with Lange we have had a load of holes in our squad that needs plugging yet there's 0 evidence of any joined up thinking in terms of recruitment, for example things like not recruiting another LCB to cover or push VDV, not recruiting a LB for 3 years, the failure in profiling a passing mid, the failure in not recruiting a LW, the over reliance of ball carrying midfielders etc...This is why by the way I fully believe that he turned to Gallagher when he couldn't get Jones out of Liverpool because it aligns with our transfer strategy of not really having any consistency.

I don't like the fact that he has seemingly ignored our injury crisis which has been happening over the past few years, you can't stop injuries happening but you can do your best to manage the situation and I don't believe the club or he has done that very well.

For a club to put out there and send the message stating we want to 'compete on all fronts' how can you look at this squad and think that's any way true - this is what I judge him off by the way, the state of the squad doesn't even allow us to compete in 2 competitions let alone 4 - This is why I question the decision to buy kids, if your sole focus is buying 18-24 year olds it's contradictory to the statement of competing.
The lack of a ball-playing midfielder and a left back for an extended period of time are real weaknesses in the squad. Those are significant issues and have been for a long time. Simons somewhat addresses that. If you don’t think he counts then we haven’t had a ball-playing 6/8 since Modric, so that’s an issue that we’ve seen for over a decade. In any case, I think Lange should have addressed that sooner.

But I also think you are asking for things that require more money in transfer fees AND wages. Do you think Lange has refused to spend money that was available?

If not, then he is dealing with a squad that has seen years of neglect and poor squad building. He didn’t inherit a well-balanced squad.

Compensating for injuries? Needs more money on fees and wages.

Buying ready-now players? Needs more money on fees and wages.

A lot of your criticisms are not really criticisms of Lange but of the club.

It’s clear as day that hes trying to improve us over the longer term. If we had an average amount of injuries then the strategy would seem more reasonable. Give us Deki or Maddison then we would have looked better.

In the short term things are really bad. The next managerial appointment is really important. I worry we are going to succumb to fan pressure and go for Poch. I’ll get behind him because he’s a legend but I don’t think it will be as magical second time around.
 
The lack of a ball-playing midfielder and a left back for an extended period of time are real weaknesses in the squad. Those are significant issues and have been for a long time. Simons somewhat addresses that. If you don’t think he counts then we haven’t had a ball-playing 6/8 since Modric, so that’s an issue that we’ve seen for over a decade. In any case, I think Lange should have addressed that sooner.

But I also think you are asking for things that require more money in transfer fees AND wages. Do you think Lange has refused to spend money that was available?

If not, then he is dealing with a squad that has seen years of neglect and poor squad building. He didn’t inherit a well-balanced squad.

Compensating for injuries? Needs more money on fees and wages.

Buying ready-now players? Needs more money on fees and wages.

A lot of your criticisms are not really criticisms of Lange but of the club.

It’s clear as day that hes trying to improve us over the longer term. If we had an average amount of injuries then the strategy would seem more reasonable. Give us Deki or Maddison then we would have looked better.

In the short term things are really bad. The next managerial appointment is really important. I worry we are going to succumb to fan pressure and go for Poch. I’ll get behind him because he’s a legend but I don’t think it will be as magical second time around.

When you say “the club,” who exactly are you talking about? Vinai? Vivienne? Who? Because as far as I’m concerned, Lange is the Sporting Director so the head football guy, no? so the football operations fall under him now, don’t they? If not who is setting the strategy at Tottenham in that case and if it isn't Lange why isn't Lange stamping his blueprint on the club? Unless I'm mistaken he's in charge now.

He didn’t inherit a perfectly balanced squad, sure, but over the last couple of years it’s largely been his and Paratici’s job to fix that and honestly I don’t think he’s done a good job of it - last summer especially I don’t see how anyone can argue he properly tried to plug the obvious holes in the squad.

I don’t buy the idea that this is purely about spending more money, not everything is about spending...it’s about planning better as I believe you can mitigate injuries without throwing huge money around like for example keeping Richarlison despite knowing he’s injury prone, giving Bentancur a new deal after two long-term injuries - this is before you look at spending money and on the subject of spending you respond to last summer after you've been warned of two previous injury crisis' by buying three kids instead of proper cover for injury prone your players Maddison, Udogie and VdV for example.

BTW Simons doesn’t solve the midfield issue either. He’s a 10. He’s not a 6 - he's not a deep lying playmaker or a deep ball progressor.
 
When you say “the club,” who exactly are you talking about? Vinai? Vivienne? Who? Because as far as I’m concerned, Lange is the Sporting Director so the head football guy, no? so the football operations fall under him now, don’t they? If not who is setting the strategy at Tottenham in that case and if it isn't Lange why isn't Lange stamping his blueprint on the club? Unless I'm mistaken he's in charge now.

He didn’t inherit a perfectly balanced squad, sure, but over the last couple of years it’s largely been his and Paratici’s job to fix that and honestly I don’t think he’s done a good job of it - last summer especially I don’t see how anyone can argue he properly tried to plug the obvious holes in the squad.

I don’t buy the idea that this is purely about spending more money, not everything is about spending...it’s about planning better as I believe you can mitigate injuries without throwing huge money around like for example keeping Richarlison despite knowing he’s injury prone, giving Bentancur a new deal after two long-term injuries - this is before you look at spending money and on the subject of spending you respond to last summer after you've been warned of two previous injury crisis' by buying three kids instead of proper cover for injury prone your players Maddison, Udogie and VdV for example.

BTW Simons doesn’t solve the midfield issue either. He’s a 10. He’s not a 6 - he's not a deep lying playmaker or a deep ball progressor.
« I don’t believe it’s about money. My solution is to spend more money. » Hmmm

Third time - do you believe Lange has more money to spend on wages and transfers that he just isn’t spending?
 
The lack of a ball-playing midfielder and a left back for an extended period of time are real weaknesses in the squad. Those are significant issues and have been for a long time. Simons somewhat addresses that. If you don’t think he counts then we haven’t had a ball-playing 6/8 since Modric, so that’s an issue that we’ve seen for over a decade. In any case, I think Lange should have addressed that sooner.

But I also think you are asking for things that require more money in transfer fees AND wages. Do you think Lange has refused to spend money that was available?

If not, then he is dealing with a squad that has seen years of neglect and poor squad building. He didn’t inherit a well-balanced squad.

Compensating for injuries? Needs more money on fees and wages.

Buying ready-now players? Needs more money on fees and wages.

A lot of your criticisms are not really criticisms of Lange but of the club.

It’s clear as day that hes trying to improve us over the longer term. If we had an average amount of injuries then the strategy would seem more reasonable. Give us Deki or Maddison then we would have looked better.

In the short term things are really bad. The next managerial appointment is really important. I worry we are going to succumb to fan pressure and go for Poch. I’ll get behind him because he’s a legend but I don’t think it will be as magical second time around.

Lange is the one who signed Tel for £40m after a shit loan thinking he could be a Son replacement. For that alone he deserves to be sacked.
 
« I don’t believe it’s about money. My solution is to spend more money. » Hmmm

Third time - do you believe Lange has more money to spend on wages and transfers that he just isn’t spending?

Are you actually reading what I’m saying or just arguing with the version you’ve made up in your head? Because I don’t think you’re understanding the point or you don't want to.

My argument has never been solely about spending more money it’s about planning better...things like not renewing Bentancur after serious injuries, keeping Richarlison despite knowing his injury record, targeting ready made players instead of constantly betting big on projects, identifying the right profiles for the squad and actually planning ahead for obvious risks like injuries.

Even if you want to go down the young players route why aren’t we buying profiles we actually need? None of that automatically means bigger transfer fees or higher wages.

You seem completely fixated on the money argument for some reason and keep trying to drag the debate back there when that’s never been my point, what are we even doing here? I’m purposely ignoring your question because it has nothing to do with my argument, it’s just the angle you’re trying to force because it fits your pro Lange narrative.
 
Age of signings: 18, 19, 18, 26, 21, 19, 18, 26, 20, 30, 24, 22, 25, 19

That is a very youthful profile. You don’t sign players with those ages if you are trying to compete today. None of those players (apart from Palhinha) are in their prime years and they know that.

Also I think it was his first interview he said he wants us to become the premier destination for young talent across Europe.
 
Ornstein reporting that Vinai and Lange led the process of recruiting Tudor when we know it was a Paritici pick

They are paying for positive PR.

I dont think it proves the club are paying anyone for pr

As I've said , these guys would live tweet your bowel movements if you gave them the info

They'll tweet comments from press conferences, team news, literally nothing sometimes - and of course they'll report anything the club sends them too

You seem fixated on picking out random ones to suggest the club are buying them

I disagree - and I'll probably disagree the next time you bring this back up as well

The club will brief as suits them, the vultures will retweet absolutely anything to keep those likes rolling

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Are you actually reading what I’m saying or just arguing with the version you’ve made up in your head? Because I don’t think you’re understanding the point or you don't want to.

My argument has never been solely about spending more money it’s about planning better...things like not renewing Bentancur after serious injuries, keeping Richarlison despite knowing his injury record, targeting ready made players instead of constantly betting big on projects, identifying the right profiles for the squad and actually planning ahead for obvious risks like injuries.

Even if you want to go down the young players route why aren’t we buying profiles we actually need? None of that automatically means bigger transfer fees or higher wages.

You seem completely fixated on the money argument for some reason and keep trying to drag the debate back there when that’s never been my point, what are we even doing here? I’m purposely ignoring your question because it has nothing to do with my argument, it’s just the angle you’re trying to force because it fits your pro Lange narrative.
I have worked from facts, forward. You seem to want to avoid a very simple question. Three times. Because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

You say this:

My argument has never been solely about spending more money it’s about planning better

But then in the same paragraph this:

targeting ready made players instead of constantly betting big on projects, identifying the right profiles for the squad and actually planning ahead for obvious risks like injuries
Ready made players cost more money on fees and especially more money on wages.

Are you assuming we have the money for that but that Lange just isn’t spending it because he has a fetish for young players? That at least is coherent and I would understand the criticism: Lange isn’t buying better, more expensive players even though he could.

Same for planning ahead for injuries. What does this mean if it doesn’t mean buying players ? If it means buying players then that costs money.

If you can propose things hes not doing which do not require an extra cent of spending, then I am all ears. But nearly everything you’ve said WOULD cost more money. So you can claim it has nothing to do with money but in the real world … it does.
 
That is a very youthful profile. You don’t sign players with those ages if you are trying to compete today
Be nice to though, wouldn't it? After several years of watching some very mediocre players, maybe us fans deserve a bit better. An overload of prospects, mid-table waddlers and injured players who may never return to their best - not that their best was the very best to begin with - sliding towards relegation for the second year in a row, is not my idea of fun.
 
Be nice to though, wouldn't it? After several years of watching some very mediocre players, maybe us fans deserve a bit better. An overload of prospects, mid-table waddlers and injured players who may never return to their best - not that their best was the very best to begin with - sliding towards relegation for the second year in a row, is not my idea of fun.
Yep. I agree. Say you will freeze ticket prices for 3 years while we build.
 
I have worked from facts, forward. You seem to want to avoid a very simple question. Three times. Because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

If you want me to answer your question then no I don't think he is holding any money back and is generally trying to spend as much as we could afford on what he thinks we need but that isn't my criticism anyway...I just don't think he knows how to build and maintain a squad - that is my 'narrative'

You say this:



But then in the same paragraph this:


Ready made players cost more money on fees and especially more money on wages.

Are you assuming we have the money for that but that Lange just isn’t spending it because he has a fetish for young players? That at least is coherent and I would understand the criticism: Lange isn’t buying better, more expensive players even though he could.

Well this is strange because that sentence you've done your best to twist and misconstrued says my argument isn't solely about money and you know this because you've removed all my other points in the same paragraph and on that by the way identifying the right profiles doesn't cost money, you do know what I mean by that don't you? I mean not targeting players like Dragusin if you're looking to play out from the back, not targeting a load of ball carriers when you need passing midfielders in your team, you tell me why is that so difficult and how that actually costs money?

Hopefully that's a question you're gonna answer this time but I won't hold my breath...

I'll happily concede the point about buying ready made players but I still think there was room to move away from the youth project at times...e.g why did we need a 21 year old keeper who had 0 experience in the Prem to replace our first choice keeper who got injured for example?

Same for planning ahead for injuries. What does this mean if it doesn’t mean buying players ? If it means buying players then that costs money.

Already said about the injuries thing which again you seemed to have conveniently missed so once again you can identify risks for example like not renewing Bentancur knowing he's had 2 long term injuries and selling Richarlison for example knowing that he's a sick note...and if you want to go down the youth route focus on players with the same profile for the players who are constantly injured, Maddison/VdV/Udogie/Rich for example, again that doesn't cost more money but at least there's a strategy there.

If you can propose things hes not doing which do not require an extra cent of spending, then I am all ears. But nearly everything you’ve said WOULD cost more money. So you can claim it has nothing to do with money but in the real world … it does.

And I've already proposed the things I'm concerned about but you're not 'all ears' because you just ignored all the points I made in the paragraph you just removed.

And you have the cheek to say I'm avoiding questions when I've asked you this and you've ignored it:

Interesting to know if you think he should still keep his job based on his time here, or perhaps you still think he will leave a brilliant legacy behind once he eventually fucks off.

And this and you have ignored it:

When you say “the club,” who exactly are you talking about? Vinai? Vivienne?

Are you trying to hide behind this "club" thing to protect Lange as if he's not calling the shots now? So who is "The club"?

If you want to throw out condescending little jabs about people having low IQs and act like you’re above everyone else be my guest...but if you’re going to do that then at least be prepared to have an actual debate.

So drop the disingenuous crap and argue in good faith for once.
 
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