But what are you seeing that leads to the assumption that we are winning us a few cups?????
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Manager Jose Mourinho
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Defenders that can actually defend would be a fucking start.
Mistake after fucking mistake but we blame the manager.
Goal number 1 Aurier despite being stood in front of Mane lets him run and does not move until he is 10 yards away.
Dier leaves the ball and OUR CLUB CAPTAIN lets the ball past him and Firminio scores from 1 yard.
Goal 2 - Dire passes to a liverpool player and then again a poor shot was parried to Arnold for a free shot at goal.
Goal 3 bad mistake by Rodon he is learning the game at this level and has 1 massive error in him in each game.
We have weak players that don't want to do the dirty work in order to win a game.
The character that has run through this club for the last 25 years is fucking shocking WEAK AS PISS
City on the up now. We ain't winning that. And we lost to Antwerp in the Europa what makes people think we will go all the way
The fact we are in the final of one already so we have a chance of winning it, but yeah from the way we are playing just lately it will all end in tears ,
But anything can happen in a one off game
We were not 6th when he got sacked.
As it is, changing manager can go from bad to worse, too.
Please elaborate on your clear idea. If it's good idea, perhaps somehow it makes a trend and the decision maker at the club see to it?!
As for me, I don't have my own idea of making thing better especially for changing the manager. It can go worse or better from now on. I am here to support the club, so...
I'm going to play devil's advocate here: could the thinking be that if we played too offensively that Liverpool would tear us apart on the counter at will and exploit our (weak) defence?
I'm not saying I agree with taking that tack - and lord knows it was fucking useless once we went behind and seemingly stopped attacking them. Just trying to understand the motivation.
What’s odd is that everything I’ve see from Vinicius suggests he’s excellent at holding up the ball. Jose even said himself that he could play in a two alongside Harry.
You would have thought tonight would have been ideal for Vinny. Not necessarily to score, but at least to relieve pressure by holding up a long ball.
We were 14th in the table last season when Pochettino was sacked. Maybe you’re thinking of the manager before that. Tim Sherwood was sacked at the end of a season where we finished 6th.
The best to hope for overall (if people want Mourinho gone) would be to finish outside the top 4, maybe even embarrassingly so, but win the Europa League.
Trophy monkey off our back, CL in the bag for next season, but a certain Mr Levy with a tough decision to make.
Trophy monkey off our back, CL in the bag for next season, but a certain Mr Levy with a tough decision to make.
The only thing on our side is Jose's luck. We've already been drawn against the lowest competition possible in the League Cup, FA Cup and we are about the play the lowest-ranked side in Europa + we got byes! Keep up that luck and yeah, we might just scrape our way in another.
His line-up today was a cop-out. Going with 5 defenders and Doherty at left wing-back almost says from the start, we're shit and scared of the opposition so we'll play an extra defender out of position rather than than try and take the game to the opposition.
Typical Jose, he'll never change his ways.
Typical Jose, he'll never change his ways.
The tactics work. Truth is some of the players just aren't good enough. Ndombele and hoj are the only 2 midfielders I can look at and say yes these are quality and need to be in the starting 11. Other than that, the rest are bang average. And then there's Kane and Son who drag us each season.
Sorry, I thought you were also implying that we will get into other finals.
If we were wanting to be better defensively though - why wouldn't we just play the same way we did at Anfield? Where we were ALOT better defensively and literally rendered them to a lucky deflected goal and a last minute set piece to score against us?
353 is an offensive tactic. You tend to push your wing backs up, you have 3 attackers who tend to float around with the idea of one either being a focal point or dropping a bit deeper to create, three at the back to cover their wing backs and remain solid with two central midfielders to progress. And it just wasn't a game for that.
Instead, we had two wing backs who RARELY got forward, let alone kept width. We had two midfielders who, to their credit, were our best players on the night, but outnumbered by Liverpools 3 and couldn't progress it forward or do much when they had the ball due to lack of movement and no outlets either side of them. We had Bergwijn drifting around in a formation not suited for him and of course Kane got injured so pretty much made us ineffective even more.
Fair. I can't really explain it from that angle to be honest. Kinda funny to play Doherty on the left when he's right-footed and his most valuable attacking weapon is crossing into the box.
Can only think the plan was to continue to try to get long balls over the top to the attackers and Vinny doesn’t have the speed? But to do that needs defenders who can pass long and I only saw one decent pass from Dier all night. And we also need to not be against Matip, who is fast and Allison, who is basically a sweeper.
Jose got it wrong tonight. Players even more to blame, but he still fucked up. First time I’m saying that this season.
We could get lucky in the EL and the way the league is going we could be well
Out of contention for top 4 so we end up resting players for the EL games on a Thursday so who knows , I just don’t enjoy football at the minute , part of it is the shit games but it’s also the fact I’m watching every game at home , I miss going to the lane and watching Spurs live.
I must have worded it wrong if two people couldn't understand. Apologies.
Last season after 19 games = we were 6th. With 29 points.
This season after 19 games = we are 6th. 4 points better off.
Last season was our WORST season in the last decade. So bad in fact that we sacked the best manager we've had within that decade.