Juande Ramos for one, after 8 league games.
He was on a massive fucking contract too.
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Manager Jose Mourinho
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He was on a massive fucking contract too.
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Can I just ask you.
As an Ajax fan, how would you see the likes of firstly Ten Hsg, but also Schuurs, Gravenbach and Alvarez doing at Spurs?
Good point. Although that was 2 points in 8 games and we could have been relegated. Thankfully we arent anywhere near that.
An honest answer, it was 1-0 when Ndombele was subbed on. We lost 3-0.
Ok the players is to blame also. But do you honestly think Mourinho is the coach taking us forward from here? And if you do. Please tell me what you see him bringing to the team. Because all I see is poison, a narcissistic idiot, without tactics, that in 18 months haven't delivered anything other than defense, reactivactve football and a team that doesn't work for each other. I wish I could have hope of him correcting this shit show, but all I see makes me think it will be even worse before he goes.
How much more does he need to see though?
Last year wasn't a full season but here was here for the majority of it and we have seen zero improvement since then. Plus it isn't like Jose is a brand new manager, it is pretty clear what you get from him at this point and we are getting all the negative things that was predicted by many before he even started.
Jose was always likely to be a short term guy to see if he could salvage a few trophies with the old core that we had under Poch and a few new additions. It is clear that is not going to work and we need a rebuild/tool/make whatever we want to call it. There is nothing to indicate that Jose is the right man for that kind of project and plenty to suggest that he is in fact a terrible option to do it.
Levy is an idiot, when it comes to football, and in love with Jose but hopefully, even he can see what is clear as day and that is that Jose is not the right manager for this team now and going forward.
Santini and Ramos. Sherwood didn't get to start his first full season.
At points this season we have been in relegation form. Look at 2nd week in December onwards
We are still in a final. Thing is levy has given all these managers so much time to win anything. Poch was given 5 full seasons and won fuck all and ended up with one of the worst 11 months of the club performance wise since a long time. I think Mourinho will probably be given until the end of the season and if we dont win any trophy and not even a top 4 , he will be gone.
They questioned Poch in the last 12 months he was here.
They now question Jose and they will question the next manager whoever he may be.
A massive clear out is needed and many of our under achieving squad need to leave.
But and this is a big but how the fuck are we meant to trust the transfer committee to make the right signings in both attitude and talent.
This final is going to be used to excuse everything now.
With Poch there were reasons to give him time because you could see the team showing positive signs, growth and reason to think things were improving for the future.
With Jose there is none of that. There is not a single reason to think that next year will be any better than the current year or last year, both of which were poor at best.
A final in which we beat Chelsea on penalties, Stoke, Brentford with a forfeit thrown in for good measure should not come close to papering over all the other games and poor results we have got under Jose.
If Levy lets us getting to a final based on a buttery soft draw trump everything else then I guess he deserves all the shit that will be coming to Spurs with Jose as a manager going forward. It just sucks that we as fans will be the ones to really suffer for it.
Oh to be a fly on the wall in the inevitable showdown debrief meeting between Jose and Levy today.
I would love to hear what's being said
I suspect Levy will be trying to sound believable when he says to Jose ‘I will give you time to turn it around, we have a cup final to win’. Levy wont admit that he has been tapping up as many replacement managers as he could since Sunday’s shit show and now after last night he’s prepared to pay an even higher salary! Jose is no fool, he won’t believe a word if it and will know his days are numbered. Only a small miracle would save him now eg the cup & top 4.
I expect relations will be polite but frosty.
Very difficult to answer this question shortly. Only just about the option 'Ten Hag' I could write an answer with the size of a novel. So maybe I'll get back to your question later. For now I'd say Ten Hag would a better coach for Spurs than Mourinho, but most probably he'll be transferred to a club in the Bundesliga anyway. Of the three players you mentioned Gravenberch is undoubtly the best, but about him I am the full 100% sure he won't go to Spurs.
That is not true. From the start of 2019 things started going downwards and there was zero signs of improvement. From jan to the end of that season it was 19 games and 26 points. Then after the new season started it was 12 games 14 points. That points to things getting worse not better.
Probably the same ones towards the end of Poch’s tenure
like i said yesterday, i blame this players too. Yesterday i don´t see any atitude in the pitch...
Nailed it. Probably been putting the feelers out since that Mid December to mid February run. I suspect he wants to avoid a caretaker if he can but he'll have a contingency plan.
So the time that lead to his firing?
Yes once there were signs that our future might not be great with Poch we moved on from him. Thank you for supporting my argument.
This is an odd one. I can only compare the ‘players questioning the training’ to the kids I teach. Those that question it invariably struggle because they don’t get it or don’t agree as it’s different to what they’re used to. In this analogy, I side with the manager : those that do as I suggest in the classroom and work with me, succeed, those that are resistant end up where they always were.
Jose can - but maybe hasn’t- adapt his methods to suit the new styles in the Prem: but can the players adapt their thinking? For those struggling to get into the first XI, it would seem not. Too many players having a sulk: Harry, Sonny, PEH, have thrived - maybe Reggie and Coco and Lucas. The rest are as they were. They’re spoiled kids and - as he doesn’t have to work with them - it may be time to move them on, or get in a supply teacher they can get their own way with.
Yes he fucjs off with the cash owed to him
Otherwise we’re stuck with him
They should be I agree but they’re not performing
Whether it’s down to their attitude and clear lack of pride or Jose can be debated
Probably a bit of both