At home during the last season at the old WHL I didn’t mind if prime Barca turned up. Never felt that way about us before, we could put up a fight with anyone and there was no luck about it.
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Manager Jose Mourinho
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At home during the last season at the old WHL I didn’t mind if prime Barca turned up. Never felt that way about us before, we could put up a fight with anyone and there was no luck about it.
A fair analysis.
I think he needed to make a change much earlier. GLC was struggling and on a yellow card. He let Willock run off him for the second goal. I'm sure Jose was planning to take off GLC for Sissoko but they equalised just before. Although the signs were there that we needed to make that change earlier.
Yeah good shout, look at how Palace have been able to keep Zaha, even with him attempting to force a move away more than once.
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They can keep him
Generally he’s quite slow to make changes - he’s definitely changed in that sense
He literally made it the first thing he did was to get two players that were almost certainly leaving the club to commit to long term contracts, Toby and Dier!! (I am actually ok with the Dier deal but so many aren't).
But the real quiz is that this squad of players he inherited was a regular top 4 side, putting in x2 genuine title challenges and getting to the meaty end of all the cups available to compete for.
Whether you believe this team has shit players in it or not, Jose absolutely didn't agree with that assessment, he said:
“The quality in both the squad and the academy excites me. Working with these players is what has attracted me.”
“The best gift are the players who are here,”
“I don’t need new players. I just need to get to know these ones better".
“The quality in both the squad and the academy excites me. Working with these players is what has attracted me.”
He didn't take over a mid-table team, he took over CL finalists, a team that finished in the top 4 and got to a League Cup semi-final. His remit wasn't to bin off and rebuild an entirely new team. His remit was to push us onto the next level which he clearly accepted. That translates to CL winners, PL Winners, FA Cup Winners, League Cup winners.
This and only this is what got you wet between your legs. You got a* WiNNeR*
Only including TOT games for now.
True.
But also I wouldn't trust Sissoko either to mark the run.
Done so many things recently where he's been very lazy either tracking or blocking the ball.
I feel the complete opposite now.
For example in 3 and a bit weeks time we have Sheffield United (H).
20TH Placed , about to be relegated and yet I honestly don't feel confident we will get 3pts. That's what Mourinho has done to us.
Under Poch I always felt like we had a chance even in the toughest games there was some confidence. With Mourinho there's none.
The fact is for Mourinho to win at Spurs now we probably would have to sell about 8-10 players and in the current market we would be lucky to get 80 Million for:
Aurier
Lamela
Sissoko
Lucas
Winks
Sanchez/Dier
Bergwijn
Alderweirald
We would then need to buy 5-6 players to replace these and Mourinho would not want to take anyone who is not a star player so you are probably looking at 150m- 200m at least and I am probably low balling it here. That is at least an 70m negative net spend in a year we have lost at least 200m due to coronavirus. This is after a 50 m net spend last summer.
Mourinho will have to take a lot lower payoff and it is up to Levy to negotiate that, especially if the rumour of failure to get top 4 is true. Then it is just negotiating for our manager target which will be about 10 million. This will all result in a lot lower net spend.
“Wet between your legs”??????
Superior debating skills on show here!!!
lol
But he took over a demoralised destabilised side beaten in the CL final and currently 14th in the PL
Humiliated by Bayern
Thrashed by Brighton and embarrassed by Colchester Fucking Utd!!
Players at each other’s throats shagging each other’s wives!!!!
Or have you forgotten all that
But part of what I was referring to was Dele not being allowed to leave by Levy!
So come on then Guido
What gets you ‘Wet between your legs’??
Take your time now.......
So what you’re saying then is that it makes financial sense to keep him as no way will he take a low pay off and add to that as previously mentioned the cost of getting a top manager in!
I know what he took over, I just listed it.“Wet between your legs”??????
Superior debating skills on show here!!!
lol
But he took over a demoralised destabilised side beaten in the CL final and currently 14th in the PL
Humiliated by Bayern
Thrashed by Brighton and embarrassed by Colchester Fucking Utd!!
Players at each other’s throats shagging each other’s wives!!!!
Or have you forgotten all that
But part of what I was referring to was Dele not being allowed to leave by Levy!
So come on then Guido
What gets you ‘Wet between your legs’??
Take your time now.......
Poch got sacked fella. The rationale is it's time for a change, the players we flat, Poch was probably flat. It's why coaches move as Pepp did at Barca and Bayern and Klopp at Dortmund. It's not really a failing, in high-intensity management, it's quite common, not just in football, in Sales, it's very common for the top Sales managers to get moved on or promoted, with the chance of keeping the intercity high by the new bloke.
What did Moyes take over, a better team than Spurs?
Fucking hell, it's staggering to find anyone still clinging onto this Jose Hill. Mate climb down there are fewer public places to die on and you must be feeling lonely surrounded with your Mourinista's for company. There are Spurs fans all waiting for you once you've had the lobotomy.
*Levy was absolutely right to keep Dele (a loan would have been acceptable to get him playing again), Jose's treatment of Dele has been a scandal, as it has been with other players. It's instrumental in the player dissatisfaction we are seeing now. Most other managers try their best to create a united team, Jose as we all knew before his arrival doesn't and he deliberately wants one of tension and conflict, fine if this was what brought him his success twenty years ago, but name me ONE manager that does this in the game today, then name me one manager in the elite teams that apply this methodology.....I'll wait.
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(I don't rate him that highly but it's just that in a previous era he would have been sold by them as the money generated by his sale would have been impossible to turn down and no way could they have been able to afford the wages that enabled him to remain at the club. This is a massive change in the player trading hirachy).
the only placed he left in toxic circumstances were Inter and United since both club declined after he left
Jose is likely to have failed (I will not say for certain while we can still win a cup and squeeze into top 4).
But lets been honest about the situation he inherited. One of the luckiest Champions League runs in history papered over the cracks of a squad falling to pieces. Poch has said as much. Trippier said similar after leaving.
I remember saying to non-Spurs supporting friends how amazing it is we've made the final as we've been terrible all season.
Our league form was abysmal in the last year and yes we scraped into top 4 but as this season shows you no longer have to have a stellar campaign to be in with a shout.
I accept the football has been shit and we all want to be back to dominating games but lets be realistic about where we were when Jose took over.
A year of turgid football, on the whole, proceeded Jose with some truly shocking results in the back end of his tenure.
I think anyone coming in would have struggled to immediately rejuvenate the squad and have us competing for top honours instantly.
We have no God given right to be in the top 4. This is not 2017 anymore. We compete in a league with City, United, Liverpool and Chelsea to name but a few.
No Dembele, Jan, Eriksen, Rose, Trippier, good Dele and an aging Toby.
People seem to think it's a simple task to just replace what was our best team in decades instantly.
But lets been honest about the situation he inherited. One of the luckiest Champions League runs in history papered over the cracks of a squad falling to pieces. Poch has said as much. Trippier said similar after leaving.
I remember saying to non-Spurs supporting friends how amazing it is we've made the final as we've been terrible all season.
Our league form was abysmal in the last year and yes we scraped into top 4 but as this season shows you no longer have to have a stellar campaign to be in with a shout.
I accept the football has been shit and we all want to be back to dominating games but lets be realistic about where we were when Jose took over.
A year of turgid football, on the whole, proceeded Jose with some truly shocking results in the back end of his tenure.
I think anyone coming in would have struggled to immediately rejuvenate the squad and have us competing for top honours instantly.
We have no God given right to be in the top 4. This is not 2017 anymore. We compete in a league with City, United, Liverpool and Chelsea to name but a few.
No Dembele, Jan, Eriksen, Rose, Trippier, good Dele and an aging Toby.
People seem to think it's a simple task to just replace what was our best team in decades instantly.
I am flattered even though I know you jest. However when I show your comment to my wife I will leave out the jest context. I may well describe you as one of many posters who have said similarI’ve never doubted that you are 100% right on any subject that you get involved in
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United are certainly trying to make him look good by appointing Ole who got Cardiff relegated. However he may well match Jose’s best league finish, I wouldn’t let Ole run a bath