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Manager Jose Mourinho

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I think it's just very hard to create a modern Fergie type seige mentality, rage against the world in a top level football club these days. The players are already multi-millionaires, and quite intelligent ones to boot increasingly. I think they see Mourinho's motivational classes for what they are. The fact the players started smiling in the leaked video reveals a lot - they aren't going to take this stuff too seriously.
He seems to have got inside Lloris' mind, but I'm unsure whether it will work on the rest of the team. Maybe some of the young players.
Klopp's approach is more suited to the modern millionaire footballer, just create competition for places and build a positive culture - in fairness Poch was very close to this in his approach, he just ran out of steam, emotionally and in terms of investment into the team.
 
Your anti-Jose bias is as subtle as a brick.
It's not a fucking bias. I'm calling him out on this because I think he's talking bollocks.

But let's get over your view of me on whether I'm biased or not. Let's just make this easier, let's just assume I am 100% bias against Jose, it will save you the time of having to type it every time I call him out for his tactics or whatever. And it will save me the time to say no I'm not.

Does that make things easier?
 
So Matic with a hopeful 40yrd punt at goal is an example of being ruthless?

I'm not dismissing mentality, attitude. I'm an advocate of them, you will not find a bigger supporter of it than me. I believe a team can perform better than the sum of their parts, a large part of that will be driven to the mentality of the team rather than the activity in the transfer market.

I'm dismissing the notion that we are "too nice", "not cunty" enough. Upon me dismissing this people have refuted this and then babbled on about a load of a) unrelated crap and b) nothing specific no examples across a host of games. All I've asked is for examples of the other teams showing us that they are more cunty or nastier than us. So did they foul more? Did they get more yellows than us? Was their fouling more cynical, if so where, how and by whom?
You are dismissing it, the facts speak for them we won nothing
What I said about our opponents in finals scoring more goals than us and closing out the game is simplistic but true if we could have done that better than them, it would have been the best era in our history.
 
If you took the time to go through my recent posts then I would have thought it absolutely obvious who I'm refuting. YES, I'm refuting Jose's comments of us being too nice and not cunty enough as absolute bolloocks (there I've saved you the time of going back over the last couple of pages).

I've also posted examples showing that we are one of the nastiest sides in the League and have been for years. So, does he want us to be even more nasty, even more cunty? If so why? Teams that had beaten us did do without being nastier or more cunty.

So I'm calling him out for talking bollocks. So, either deal with it or post something to counter it. Give evidence to back it up. Which after multiple times of asking no has yet to post a fucking single thing, that include you, as saying "Juve at Wembley" means fuck all.

It's not a fucking bias. I'm calling him out on this because I think he's talking bollocks.

But let's get over your view of me on whether I'm biased or not. Let's just make this easier, let's just assume I am 100% bias against Jose, it will save you the time of having to type it every time I call him out for his tactics or whatever. And it will save me the time to say no I'm not.

Does that make things easier?

Remember everytime I debate you, your first play is to accuse me of being angry.... Take a look at yourself right now.

You're oblivious as to what the presence of JM as our manager does to you.
 
I think it's just very hard to create a modern Fergie type seige mentality, rage against the world in a top level football club these days. The players are already multi-millionaires, and quite intelligent ones to boot increasingly. I think they see Mourinho's motivational classes for what they are. The fact the players started smiling in the leaked video reveals a lot - they aren't going to take this stuff too seriously.
He seems to have got inside Lloris' mind, but I'm unsure whether it will work on the rest of the team. Maybe some of the young players.
Klopp's approach is more suited to the modern millionaire footballer, just create competition for places and build a positive culture - in fairness Poch was very close to this in his approach, he just ran out of steam, emotionally and in terms of investment into the team.
One of pochs biggest downfalls was there wasn’t enough competition for places, he had his favourites and persisted in playing players when out of form , if you was one of his favourites you didn’t have to give 100% as you was already selected for the team regardless
 
One of pochs biggest downfalls was there wasn’t enough competition for places, he had his favourites and persisted in playing players when out of form , if you was one of his favourites you didn’t have to give 100% as you was already selected for the team regardless
Certainly Kane was a favourite. He wanted to rebuild things but wasn't given the money. I think you are right though, overall, Klopp is objective and ruthless, whereas Poch leered more towards South American nepotism.
 
Certainly Kane was a favourite. He wanted to rebuild things but wasn't given the money. I think you are right though, overall, Klopp is objective and ruthless, whereas Poch leered more towards South American nepotism.
We will never know if big vinnie could have come good if given some serious game time, he was just given a few minutes here and there , where as Kane and dele and his favourites would get the game time to find there form even though at the time this was to the detriment of the team, I hope jose is more ruthless as maybe now dele knows he isn’t a certain starter we can see what he is made of!
 
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