Whats levy going to charge us for final you reckon? Then theres the stadium you can watch it on screen?
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Manager Jose Mourinho
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They've got goals in them, no doubt, but not much of a midfield behind them. One of the big issues here, mind you, is that when it comes to pressing, two of them look like a pair of grandads shuffling around the house in their slippers at 5 o'clock in the afternoon. I just wonder how Nagelsmann would deal with an issue like that.
Jesus, we’re stuck with him until the season...
I think this is on the players more than Jose.
He is called a dinosaur for outdated tactics etc, yet nobody is calling moyes a dinosaur with west ham playing the same as Everton from 03/04.
This is on the players thinking they are better than they are and not bothering to put in a shift.
Even if the hate mourinho winning a game raises everyone’s profile. Losing on purpose only hurts the club and the fans . Those players don’t give a shit about us.
He is called a dinosaur for outdated tactics etc, yet nobody is calling moyes a dinosaur with west ham playing the same as Everton from 03/04.
This is on the players thinking they are better than they are and not bothering to put in a shift.
Even if the hate mourinho winning a game raises everyone’s profile. Losing on purpose only hurts the club and the fans . Those players don’t give a shit about us.
I can only think there are performance related clauses that would affect any payout. Probably champions league and trophy related so maybe he has to wait for us to fail to sack him for a lot less. We all know he's going, he knows he's going but we're stuck in this ridiculous limbo.
I would imagine Naglesmann would get a much better tune out of talented players like Ndombele and Lo Celso when we start to play a pass and move game.
Yea it was amazing management that caused Llorente's handball goal to be counted and for Lucas to score a ridiculous hattrick in 30 minutes only to be not picked for the final.Yeah, who would have thought that getting Top 4 and to a Champions League final in his last season, is actually a cause to blame our former manager for.
Ridiculous narrative thatiz futbal constantly repeats.
If only we could be that unsuccessful again.
Dont forget how we got 25 points in Pochs last 24 games.
I said elsewhere....
Top 4 (with or without any cups) - he stays
Outside 4 with LC win - he's gone
Outside 4 with EL win - he stays
Outside top 4 with both EL & LC wins - he stays
With the chance of EL gone and although top 4 is possible it's not probable, So I think Levy needs to act now, not wait till summer.
No European football is a nightmare for the club, the fans and Levy.
Top 4 (with or without any cups) - he stays
Outside 4 with LC win - he's gone
Outside 4 with EL win - he stays
Outside top 4 with both EL & LC wins - he stays
With the chance of EL gone and although top 4 is possible it's not probable, So I think Levy needs to act now, not wait till summer.
No European football is a nightmare for the club, the fans and Levy.
Never thought I'd be in this state of mind again but years ago (when we regularly finished midtable), my favourite rant in the pub after matches was, "I reckon I could spend the weekend over Hackney Marshes and pick 11 players who'd be able to give us a game".
Right now, don't think I need Hackney Marshes, could go door knocking down my street and get a team together.
Right now, don't think I need Hackney Marshes, could go door knocking down my street and get a team together.
Weve not been winning things in over a decade. Whats 5 more weeks.
Yes, he would. But what would he do with guys that cannot press? And I don't know the answer to that question, by the way. When you watch teams like Leeds and RBL, you will see that almost all of their players have bags of pace. We don't have that kind of vitality in our squad.
Vinnie, Lucas, Bergwijn up top are fast, Skipp coming back, PEH, Sess coming back, Lamela (if not injured), Regulion, Lo Celso (if not injured) We have a number of players who are mobile and can press if that is needed but some of the personnel would be switched for sure.
Ah mate, don’t fucking mention it...Imagine him getting top 4
I don't agree with your assessment. Most of those guys need to be moved on. Two are sicknotes, as you say yourself. Guys like Bergwijn may have some improvement in them, but it is almost impossible for us to say they are worthy of a club that demands top-4 finishes/title challenges. And for all his workrate and pashun, Hojbjerg is very compromised in terms of his mobility. We can't lay it all at the door of fatigue, either. I saw this in him when he played for Southampton. He shouldn't be an automatic starter for us.
Whilst I don't disagree with this obviously, it would be an ideal scenario to get someone in such as a Nagelsmann to rebuild the squad, get rid of deadwood and integrate players such as Skipp, Parrott, Cirkin, Sess and potentially Scarlett in to the first team squad with just one game a week.
Means we could get rid of even more deadwood.
You be very surprised at what players can do with a manager who imbues confidence and a decent plan. We have had this many times before with Ramos to Redknapp and AVB/Sherwood to Poch.
The squad Poch inherited looked dead, Dembele was lazy, Rose was unfit, Walker was a mess, Eriksen disappeared all the time, Verts seemed disinterested. The discussions on this forum in relation to the squad where worse than they are now, many thought that squad had to be replaced wholesale and the loss of prime Bale meant we had nothing left.
Many of those players who where thought of as crap transformed. That’s why it’s hard to judge what this squad can do with the dinosaur in charge. We know Sissoko ain’t going to get better, but Bergwijn is a talented player and we have no idea if he can be top draw or needs to go and only a good modern manager will be able to make that call.
It's a good idea however, I doubt Nagelsmann would come to us with no European football.