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Player Kevin Danso

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Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
I dont trust your impartiality. Because you fail to see worse from Romero. Id ideal like better than both but when I suggest people like Konsa, Guehi, Lacroix are clearly their superior the Romero glee club break out in hives.
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I only care about how the team does. If someone proves me wrong I’ll change my opinion no problem. done it before. Wasn’t keen on Rose to start with, loved him at the end, really rated Keane at the start, the year before he went to Liverpool I was happy to get rid as his back to goal stuff was becoming awful. Similar with Defoe

sorry but Romero does nothing worse. Forget the on ball stuff, he’s just way more pro active as a defender. He atleast tries to cut stuff out before it becomes dangerous, compress the pitch. We have more possession and territory when he plays. so if even he doesn’t get it right occasionally and it looks bad you can’t take that away and say they both make mistakes.

Anyone can be passive, that’s easy . It doesn’t look bad to the layman but you will never be a good team with that kind of defending. If you can get a defender that wins the amount of balls up to the forward that Romero does is as good on the ball and never makes mistakes then great, let’s bring them in. I do rate Konsa but it’s not the players you’ve listed and Konsa was getting criticised under Gerrard as well.

I dont trust a lot of peoples football sav tbh
 
Firstly props to you. Reasoned defence based on your perceptions which I think are entirely flawed. Being proactive means playing up the back of the Centerforward or charging out to meet lofted balls. This impresses people but oft times it renders him easy to bypass and out of the action if the forward gets a touch. I think Romero also lacks the desire to get back once caught out horrible for jogging back to his position. He is a poor marker loses his man more frequently over ninety mins than Danso and his lack of discipline both emotional and positional make him a liability.

Hes been a part of various clusterfuck back fours near on five years. He's not a world class consistent centeback and the games when he hits peak are too few and far between to persist with. If any big side will pay seventy million happy to take it. The drop from King Vertonghen Alderweireld to this player is huge we need a reset.
 
dustybin said:
I only care about how the team does. If someone proves me wrong I’ll change my opinion no problem. done it before. Wasn’t keen on Rose to start with, loved him at the end, really rated Keane at the start, the year before he went to Liverpool I was happy to get rid as his back to goal stuff was becoming awful. Similar with Defoe

sorry but Romero does nothing worse. Forget the on ball stuff, he’s just way more pro active as a defender. He atleast tries to cut stuff out before it becomes dangerous, compress the pitch. We have more possession and territory when he plays. so if even he doesn’t get it right occasionally and it looks bad you can’t take that away and say they both make mistakes.

Anyone can be passive, that’s easy . It doesn’t look bad to the layman but you will never be a good team with that kind of defending. If you can get a defender that wins the amount of balls up to the forward that Romero does is as good on the ball and never makes mistakes then great, let’s bring them in. I do rate Konsa but it’s not the players you’ve listed and Konsa was getting criticised under Gerrard as well.

I dont trust a lot of peoples football sav tbh
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Take the first goal yesterday. You mean that was on Danso, despite them finally scoring in Porro's area?

And if Romero was on the pitch, it wouldn't have made any difference whatsoever, for that goal. Just that Ville may have scored.

Look here, a very similar situation, and Romero at his actual prime. Look how easily the Saudi player went past him to score.

Romero is not even 10% of the defender some on this forum claim.


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Shotgunofmichalebrow said:
Firstly props to you. Reasoned defence based on your perceptions which I think are entirely flawed. Being proactive means playing up the back of the Centerforward or charging out to meet lofted balls. This impresses people but oft times it renders him easy to bypass and out of the action if the forward gets a touch. I think Romero also lacks the desire to get back once caught out horrible for jogging back to his position. He is a poor marker loses his man more frequently over ninety mins than Danso and his lack of discipline both emotional and positional make him a liability.

Hes been a part of various clusterfuck back fours near on five years. He's not a world class consistent centeback and the games when he hits peak are too few and far between to persist with. If any big side will pay seventy million happy to take it. The drop from King Vertonghen Alderweireld to this player is huge we need a reset.
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It’s really not flawed. Forget the eye test it’s evident in win percentage, possession. Territory. Whatever.

It really doesn’t often render him out of the action. Pure exaggeration. It’s not that it particularly impresses me either, just think it’s a very important skill set in a defence. Think we’re missing it elsewhere on the pitch as well. The ball just gets played through us way too easy. Maybe if we start pressing better as a team, you can take some of the slack off the defence and you won’t see as many mistakes you think you see. You let the ball get played into the forward on the ground and he can turn on it in the premier you suffer

Man City defenders make mistakes like that as well. Seen Dias, Gvarvidal recently get caught out trying to intercept to try and sustain control and on the ball as well. They seem to accept that as part of trying to dominate. They have other players that step up on those situations and in general. How comes you think we’d get £70m for him if he’s error ridden?
 
spursfan76 said:
Take the first goal yesterday. You mean that was on Danso, despite them finally scoring in Porro's area?

And if Romero was on the pitch, it wouldn't have made any difference whatsoever, for that goal. Just that Ville may have scored.

Look here, a very similar situation, and Romero at his actual prime. Look how easily the Saudi player went past him to score.

Romero is not even 10% of the defender some on this forum claim.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spLV1gF0fkI
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Not completely on Danso no. Pressing as a team was poor. But he was 5 yards off malen. Then slow on the turn then sold himself along with Porro.

Didn’t think internationals matter? What was that four years ago? You know there are exceptions to the rule. If he did that frequently I wouldn’t rate him. I’d also say that was a turnover on the halfway line and they weren’t set defensively. How often do you see Romero five yards off the forward on a ball like that? From what I remember Villa had the ball in their own half. Apart from that yeah
 
He’s a solid back-up and squad player with the odd excellent defensive game in him. Always an option to bring on to close out a game IF we actually held a lead.

Anyone who thinks he should play over Romero is either blind, batty or has an agenda.
 
No one outside of Saudi pays £70m for Romero.

The teams in La Liga that probably fancy him are all skint and would prefer to sign him on a free, and no top Prem team would want him for the reasons that have been pointed out numerous times, but some fail to acknowledge.
 
nicoclaesen said:
Correct. Romero haters thinking Danso is better are kidding themselves on.
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Trouble is Romero isn’t exactly adverse to brain farts that actually cost us goals and points.

Danso may be a steady Eddie, but IMHO is better in the air and more positionally aware than Romero who I think flatters to deceive with his aggressive front foot style.

What I really dislike with Romero is I don’t think he really wants to be here, is rash, and really doesn’t have the mentality to be captain. He’s the worst captain we’ve had in yonks. His petulance isn’t what you want in a club captain ably demonstrated by his recent social media disaster.
 
Harrier said:
Trouble is Romero isn’t exactly adverse to brain farts that actually cost us goals and points.

Danso may be a steady Eddie, but IMHO is better in the air and more positionally aware than Romero who I think flatters to deceive with his aggressive front foot style.

What I really dislike with Romero is I don’t think he really wants to be here, is rash, and really doesn’t have the mentality to be captain. He’s the worst captain we’ve had in yonks. His petulance isn’t what you want in a club captain ably demonstrated by his recent social media disaster.
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Tend to agree. JP is more captain material tbh.
 
manmountainbutters said:
I could see potentially any of those signing him but not at £70m. He is probably a player who needs a manager who takes no shit.
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I think we’d have seen more rumours if that were the case.

Liverpool are probably the team most in need of centre backs, yet I can’t remember (I maybe wrong) one single link to Romero can you? The same with City and certainly either of Woolwich’s pairing are far better than Romero.
 
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dustybin said:
Not completely on Danso no. Pressing as a team was poor. But he was 5 yards off malen. Then slow on the turn then sold himself along with Porro.

Didn’t think internationals matter? What was that four years ago? You know there are exceptions to the rule. If he did that frequently I wouldn’t rate him. I’d also say that was a turnover on the halfway line and they weren’t set defensively. How often do you see Romero five yards off the forward on a ball like that? From what I remember Villa had the ball in their own half. Apart from that yeah
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Look at the situation again. Danso is actually forced to play exactly the way he did. Anything else means Malen can run straight on goal. But no, he can't cover both that path and also the area Porro failed to cover. There's an overload and that is because of Porro. But if Danso was the simply take Porros space, who would cover the path straight towards goal?

It's 100% on Porro. He tried to get ahead of Malen and nick the ball. He failed. Danso sure recognized the danger behind, as you can see him reposition just ahead of the pass. But the task was impossible. He had to do two things at the same time.

He looks slow and clumsy, but if you actually watch the situation, his positional awareness is good. It's better than Romero's. How often do you find Danso out of place? Almost never. Romero? A few times every game.

So you think Romero is better on the ball. Sure, because he's not a defender. He's actually someone who wants to be a striker, failed even as a midfielder, and only got a place in the defend. A slow CB without any defensive qualities. Of course it's a mess.

People see that he has above average technique for a CB and think, that guy is skilled. Actually, he isn't skilled at being a defender. And as an attacker, the task he really likes. Only keen going up. Well, he's certainly not PL quality. Just good at headers. That's it.
 
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