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Ex-Spurs Player Kyle Walker

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Cherrymoon said:
I'm dissapointed to lose Walker, particularly to a rival. But realistically, Man City are not a rival. What I mean by that is that financially they are on another planet to us. I've seen a lot of people talk about us strengthening a rival, but they were always going to sign a strong right-back this summer. Walker or no Walker.

At the same time, there were rumours back as far as March that Pochettino and Walker had a disagreement over his fitness and then there were rumours that Walker was not happy that Poch was picking Trippier for all the big matches.

So you have a situation where the manager has lost faith in the player, Walker isn't particularly happy at playing second fiddle and then you have a situation where a right-backless desperate financial giant are in for a player we can sell for a huge sum and still have who has been our go-to starting right-back for big fixtures since the early part of 2017 as well as a young player who this summer became a world-cup winner at u20 level.

Everything about this transfer makes sense, removing all emotions aside. We get a record fee for a defender, who isn't a vital part of the manager's plans. Pochettino gets backed in his decisions and stances. We make room in the squad for a promising youngster and have £55m in the bank in the bargain.

I also personally think that Trippier has improved. He is tactically and situationally better than Walker, his crossing and passing is better. Walker is faster. But at 27 and having been playing footballsince he was 18, I think its the right time to sell. He has improved under Poch, but I don't think that's down to his own application and attitude, I think that's down to Pochettino's tactics where Dier or Wanyama drop to create a 3 in a 4-2-3-1 when in possession and attacking, or where we simply play 3 at the back. It means Walker's tactical, positional and brain-fart inadequacies aren't as frequently exposed as in previous regimes.

He has been a good servant and good player, but by no means perfect, a fact bourne out by the fact that Clyne has often been picked for England ahead of him and previously Glen Johnson. The money and Poch seemingly preferring Trippier means its a no-brainer.
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Brilliantly summed up.
 
Spursdem said:
There is no reason KWP couldn't have a breakout a year. I mean, we have an immediate recent history of young superstars emerging from nowhere at Spurs. He's looked great this summer.
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Well here's a thing. With all this talk following the English success this summer, how would KWP ever develop with Tripps and Walker in front of him? Given Poch's stance on loan and where he is in his development, the only way he can develop is as #2 really. So if Poch DOES have belief in him and if the club does... then one of them had to leave. Or he would have to move on himself at this point in his career.

It makes my piss boil that we would sell a top player to a top rival, but I'm trying to be Zen (sorry Furball man Furball man ).
 
Cherrymoon said:
I'm dissapointed to lose Walker, particularly to a rival. But realistically, Man City are not a rival. What I mean by that is that financially they are on another planet to us. I've seen a lot of people talk about us strengthening a rival, but they were always going to sign a strong right-back this summer. Walker or no Walker.

At the same time, there were rumours back as far as March that Pochettino and Walker had a disagreement over his fitness and then there were rumours that Walker was not happy that Poch was picking Trippier for all the big matches.

So you have a situation where the manager has lost faith in the player, Walker isn't particularly happy at playing second fiddle and then you have a situation where a right-backless desperate financial giant are in for a player we can sell for a huge sum and still have who has been our go-to starting right-back for big fixtures since the early part of 2017 as well as a young player who this summer became a world-cup winner at u20 level.

Everything about this transfer makes sense, removing all emotions aside. We get a record fee for a defender, who isn't a vital part of the manager's plans. Pochettino gets backed in his decisions and stances. We make room in the squad for a promising youngster and have £55m in the bank in the bargain.

I also personally think that Trippier has improved. He is tactically and situationally better than Walker, his crossing and passing is better. Walker is faster. But at 27 and having been playing footballsince he was 18, I think its the right time to sell. He has improved under Poch, but I don't think that's down to his own application and attitude, I think that's down to Pochettino's tactics where Dier or Wanyama drop to create a 3 in a 4-2-3-1 when in possession and attacking, or where we simply play 3 at the back. It means Walker's tactical, positional and brain-fart inadequacies aren't as frequently exposed as in previous regimes.

He has been a good servant and good player, but by no means perfect, a fact bourne out by the fact that Clyne has often been picked for England ahead of him and previously Glen Johnson. The money and Poch seemingly preferring Trippier means its a no-brainer.
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Don't think anyone is worried about Trippier, he is a better footballer although Walker is a far better athlete, problem is more who replaces Walker as we need two rights backs. Is Walker-Peters now ready or do we need to buy.

Thing is Walker and Trippier balanced well. Trippier the better passer, dribbler, crosser etc was great going forward but Walker with his power and pace offered greater defensive protection. We therefore need to buy a RB (if we do buy) with power and he pace.
 
Tomo said:
Few months back when the story first started rumbling it was said to be Poch unhappy with Walker's attitude and performances and he decided he had to go more than Walker wanting out.

This would suggest a Fergie like ruthlessness in the club. Who knows that was media and 'ITK' bollocks doing the rounds.
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Here is my view - for all its worth

City cunts tapped him up through this agent probably as early as Christmas

Walker decided the extra 150k is worth it

Poch got wind and may be spoke to him but soon realised it's hopeless - told Levy to extract top buck in return

Started blooding in Trippeir and also prepare the fans while also showing them in a way Trippier is a solid player
 
superstaryid said:
I think it's a simplistic view and agree with John that Walkers head could have been turned by that point , how many times have you seen a first choice player temporarily lose his place and win it back again ? there is very little evidence to even suggest Walker had lost his place could have quite easily been he wasn't 100% considering this whole argument is based on 3 games.
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I have no doubt Walker could have won his place back, he's a very good player. That doesn't change the fact he was currently 2nd choice. I'm not just using those 3 games, Trippier was being used more and more from Xmas. It's just those 3 games in particular were damning for Walker.
 
Spursdem said:
I have no doubt Walker could have won his place back, he's a very good player. That doesn't change the fact he was currently 2nd choice. I'm not just using those 3 games, Trippier was being used more and more from Xmas. It's just those 3 games in particular were damning for Walker.
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He was second choice because Poch knew he was going and wanted to blood in Trippier not because he was a shit player
 
John Thomas said:
Of course I don't know for a fact. It's just what I and others suspect.
I guess you think otherwise, but again, you don't know for certain
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i dont think otherwise. i dont know when the decision was made to sell him.
what i do know is that pochettino said no player would be sold that he wanted to keep (or words to that effect). So i wont lose any sleep about walker going.
 
Tomo said:
Don't think anyone is worried about Trippier, he is a better footballer although Walker is a far better athlete, problem is more who replaces Walker as we need two rights backs. Is Walker-Peters now ready or do we need to buy.

Thing is Walker and Trippier balanced well. Trippier the better passer, dribbler, crosser etc was great going forward but Walker with his power and pace offered greater defensive protection. We therefore need to buy a RB (if we do buy) with power and he pace.
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I don't know if Walker-Peters is ready now. The club would surely know if he's ready to deputise or if he needs a loan. We may buy another right-back (Perreira for example). What I know is that the club definitely seems to have been willing to sell Walker this summer. He was practically touted about at the beginning, with Man City being the strongest linked. You see Walker is only good for defensive protection due to his pace. He often uses his pace to get out of his own daft mistakes. I think his pace will start tailing off in the next few years and I don't think looking from the outside he is a Ryan Giggs type who is ultra-professional and hard-working to avoid his game going into early decline or adapting it.

I don't think we need Trippier AND Walker if I'm being honest. One of them would have probably been on their way for first-team football in the next year or two. Walker-Peters deserves at least a shot at making it at Spurs. The only way we'll know if he's good enough is if he starts getting bench time and rotated appearances maybe in the cups to start off with.
 
Spursdem said:
I have no doubt Walker could have won his place back, he's a very good player. That doesn't change the fact he was currently 2nd choice. I'm not just using those 3 games, Trippier was being used more and more from Xmas. It's just those 3 games in particular were damning for Walker.
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree , imo if Man City never had interest Walker he's definitely first choice over Trippier , the fact he played almost 4× as many premier league minutes suggests he was valued higher too , the games he was overlooked for Trippier was during a time when strong rumours that he wanted to move to City were already circling and aren't particularly obvious signs Trippier was ahead of Walker for me anyway , anyway thank God we have money in the kitty and decent options at right back
 
However I think it was the finale in which Trippier started but got roasted by Martial for the entire game. The entire damn game Martial ripped him apart and assisted Rooney's goal.

Walker subbed on and shut Martial down for the rest of the game.
 
Spursdem said:
Trippier is no longer backup, he started more games in the last month of the season than Walker and those games included the semi-final against Chelsea and league games against Woolwich and Manchester United, whilst Walker played against the weaker sides. Think we can safely say Poch believes Trippier is his first choice RB. I love Walker but 50mil to be reinvested in the squad, preferably a creative locksmith further forward is definitely something I can accept. Walker, as good as he is, is 27 and his speed will be going soon. When that does he'll be half the player, as we saw with Aaron Lennon, who equally relied on raw pace. Getting 50mil for a player who imo has 2 years left as elite is decent business, especially when he's already dropping down the pecking order.
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He was dropped because Poch knew he was being sold - not the other way around.
 
VirginiaSpur said:
However I think it was the finale in which Trippier started but got roasted by Martial for the entire game. The entire damn game Martial ripped him apart and assisted Rooney's goal.

Walker subbed on and shut Martial down for the rest of the game.
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Well that's a lie.

He got the better of him once, which unfortunately lead to the goal.

I remember Nolito absolutely embarrassing Walker and he isn't even quick.

Easy game this.
 
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