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Like I said...no I meant which decisions is that table taking into account and are they factoring in how the new VAR decisions would have affected the game...
But that is still utter bollocks and doesn't take into account that VAR is still subjective. I write this because I am assuming that the person that has put this together thinks that we shouldn't have been awarded the penalty against Liverpool (van Dicks kick on Lamela). If that was the result of the extra 2 points awarded to Liverpool, does anyone agree with that decision on here?
Brighton the most hard done by! Would have finished 6 places higher while Leicester & Bournemouth -5 & -4 places resp. Oh, and Huddersfield would have been relagated at the expense of Stoke.
Assumes anyone bar victim scousers gives a shit
Is this based on offside and missed pens or something? I mean this is all well and good, but every decision and non-decision changes the flow and outcome of the game, so this is pretty useless.
Brighton the most hard done by! Would have finished 6 places higher while Leicester & Bournemouth -5 & -4 places resp. Oh, and Huddersfield would have been relagated at the expense of Stoke.
Only exceptions are cases were its at the death, like when Son was taken out for a clear pen this year against Liverpool that would put us even with them on points for the season.
With VAR they'd have been out the champions league last year
No one makes much of the weight of decisions they had in their favour up til the final
(Where they played the one team you never get decisions over lol )
No one makes much of the weight of decisions they had in their favour up til the final
(Where they played the one team you never get decisions over lol )
Will read in the office, cheers. Though I didn’t say even out over a season necessarily as it could be quite short time span.
Lock thread - delete OP
Hmm, just had a look at the website with the full details of it all, at ESPN - THE LUCK INDEX. And guess what the first point they make is...
Yes, apparently the dippers were robbed of 2 points in their match against us. Which according to their methodology, means that for the match in question at least two of the three coders highlighted an incident as ‘possibly incorrect’, and former referee Peter Walton may also have double-checked it and agreed. For me that's enough to possibly discredit the whole thing - which is a shame, as other than that very subjective element, the methodology they've used looks to be very well thought through.
Also it should be noted that they've not just looked at VAR-type incidents, they looked at other lucky/unlucky events too:
Yes, apparently the dippers were robbed of 2 points in their match against us. Which according to their methodology, means that for the match in question at least two of the three coders highlighted an incident as ‘possibly incorrect’, and former referee Peter Walton may also have double-checked it and agreed. For me that's enough to possibly discredit the whole thing - which is a shame, as other than that very subjective element, the methodology they've used looks to be very well thought through.
Also it should be noted that they've not just looked at VAR-type incidents, they looked at other lucky/unlucky events too:
- Incorrectly awarded free kicks that resulted in goals
- Goals scored after the allotted injury time expired (which I don't agree with as injury time is a minimum anyway and it never properly accounts for stoppages)
- Deflected goals
How the fuck are Woolwich so high?!
That is really calling into question the validity of this!
Feels like every week they get an offside handball, dodgy pen, opposition goal disallowed for no reason, etc etc.
Note I said it feels, not they definitely do. Always without doubt though there is a stench of spawn surrounding them.
Please football gods let them be West Ham level when VAR comes in!
:avbpray:
That is really calling into question the validity of this!
Feels like every week they get an offside handball, dodgy pen, opposition goal disallowed for no reason, etc etc.
Note I said it feels, not they definitely do. Always without doubt though there is a stench of spawn surrounding them.
Please football gods let them be West Ham level when VAR comes in!
:avbpray:
Here’s where I stand on this Robot, laser guided human interpretation, flip a coin for the right decision, load of bollocks.....
Pochettino is a fairly intelligent man, been in football most of his life, and self-admittedly says he hasn’t a clue how this thing works....and he’s right, if we don’t know, how, when, where, it actually kicks in to the “phase of play” we are still at the hands of the ref “human error” to ask for it, if it kicks in automatically does the ref get lazy and expect it to cover his ass, ie; I’m not sure about the penelty so fuck it play on and VAR will call me in the next 5mins if it was a pen.....
The powers to be needed to nip this crap in the bud earlier and VAR should have died a death before it grew wings....now the can of worms has been opened the beautiful game is screwed....
Goal line technology is a good thing, should have left it at that!
Pochettino is a fairly intelligent man, been in football most of his life, and self-admittedly says he hasn’t a clue how this thing works....and he’s right, if we don’t know, how, when, where, it actually kicks in to the “phase of play” we are still at the hands of the ref “human error” to ask for it, if it kicks in automatically does the ref get lazy and expect it to cover his ass, ie; I’m not sure about the penelty so fuck it play on and VAR will call me in the next 5mins if it was a pen.....
The powers to be needed to nip this crap in the bud earlier and VAR should have died a death before it grew wings....now the can of worms has been opened the beautiful game is screwed....
Goal line technology is a good thing, should have left it at that!
I hope this poster get reinstated soon.