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Nothing, but I'm not running about the forum saying "argh, argh, argh, Levy is a cunt, it's all hopeless, kill Levy!"
So clearly I'm a Levy fan.
Iraola is basically a regeneration of Poch with a smaller budget he's done so much more than Ange. He has also worked at a higher level. I think he's destined to coach Spurs and specifically to supercede Arteta's Woolwich in the process because their backgrounds. Its too perfect
McKenna , because if he feels Ipswich are doomed he might leave as his stock remains high right now . Iraola and Frank are not leaving mid season to manage our basket case of a club under Levy . Both will feel their next job will be one that they don’t need to put up with our arsehat CEO/Owner, they will think they can do better and they can. Not necessarily I terms of club but definitely in terms of working environment.
It’s not all on ENIC. How we are playing and the lack of managing the players properly is on Ange.
That Ange has a squad ill-prepared for the challenges of the season is on ENIC.
Both statements can be true.
Our 25 man PL squad includes players that haven’t had a look in and won’t, plus Reggie being barely used. Refusing to use players, as Ange has, is hardly helping either is it.
Iraola has an immensely more impressive CV.
He's the most natural replacement, many of the things he does are similar to the things Ange talks about doing but Iraola actually does them successfully with cheaper players in a fully functional tactical system.
He's also the easiest option to snag, as he's making peanuts and we can smash his salary.
My hope is that it's AVB -> Poch. Systems similar enough that the players we've bought are still useful under Iraola and we're not starting over from scratch.
Who do you think will hire either in the next 18 months and pay them more than Tottenham pay their managers?
I don’t know , what I do know is that plenty of managers took that view , hence we got Nuno and Ange . Potter even said we destroy manager’s CVs iirc. I hope I’m wrong and will be happy if i am , in fact it’s massively neglectful if Levy hasn’t spoken to a few managers already . Yet here we are with a drowning Ange still in charge , that I suspect is cos they told Levy to jog on.
As I said I reckon Ange is still here cos Levy knows he can’t attract any acceptable candidates, if he could Ange would be gone .
Levy is trapped his own pyramid scheme , he has run out of road on hiring quality managers, they all know he is a massive tool.
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Yeah fair enough. I too was impressed by that win against Arse in the Europa. But I wasn't sure how well a gritty 3-4-3 block would translate to a more possession-heavy style he'd have to play with a team like us.
As for winning the league with Sporting, that you can't deny is impressive. And I have to say I've liked his personality since taking over at United, he says the wrong things on occasion but he doesn't shy away from the hard questions. We'll see how he gets on but that squad really isn't built for a 'back 3 with wingbacks' system so it could well take a squad overhaul they can't afford right now. The inflexibility would be really worrying me right now as a United fan.
Ironically I think he'd suit our squad much better, but inflexible managers give me serious pause.
Some okay managers on the list, but none of those are gonna do anything of note under the current owners.
Two questions.
1. Who employed Ange?
2. Do you think Ange has been given all the players he asked for?
1. Levy. Hindsight is wonderful. None of us thought we’d be here 18 months ago.
2. No. Of course not. But the fucker has had more riches lavished on him than Jose, Conte and Nuno.
Does your partner let you do every single sexual thing you’ve ever asked for, or let you do what you want all of the time?
Ask your Mrs.
I wouldn't need to call round to your gaff, while you're at work, if she did.
What on Earth has my sexual preferences got to do with Levy being shit at his job?
AVB was better than Ange. At least there was something looking coherent.
On the ‘starting over’ point, there seems to be an abundance of coaches at the higher-level who suddenly can only play one system and just need to buy the best players. IMO, that’s not really coaching, it’s just putting the best players out in the right order.
I think that’s partly why Slot’s done so well, he can actually coach, as can Nuno (who knew!), Iraola and a few of the others. They can adapt because they’ve seen it all before and can improve players. Arteta can’t coach, but Woolwich have spent silly amounts and they got lucky with a couple of players. Maybe we’ll do the same? Who knows.
I'd take Ange for not being Chelsea and no tank top.
If Potter said we destroy managers' CVs, then he proved how shitty his judgement is and why he's now managing Spam.
Our last managers have gone on to manage PSG, Roma, Napoli, Chelsea, etc. They've all won trophies and competed in the CL at their next stops. Potter, again, is at fucking Spam.
Levy is a cunt, but there's a handful of jobs on the planet better than Tottenham - even with Levy. And the number of times those jobs come open, and that opening aligns with the moment a manager is peaking at a lesser club and therefore attractive, is very few and far between.
Most of those jobs are very unlikely to come open in the next 18 months. Frank is well paid, and seems happy. Iraola is making 1/5th of what he would make at Spurs.
Gambling that you'll still be a hot name 24-30 months from now when one of those handful of jobs better than Spurs comes open is a big risk. Iraola be sacrificing £4M next season.
None of the jobs that are arguably better than Spurs in the PL (Liverpool, Chelsea, City, United), La Liga (Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico), Serie A (Juventus, Inter), Bundesliga (Bayern), or Ligue 1 (PSG) look like they'll be open in the next 24 months.
So then you're looking at clubs in equivalent situations. Milan, Roma, Lyon, Everton, Dortmund, etc. Clubs where winning the EL is probably the most success you'll be able to achieve due to the financial position of the club in comparison to their direct league and European competition. Now, maybe not having to deal with Levy is worth managing one of those clubs instead. But none of those clubs are more (or less) likely a springboard to greater success than Spurs.
Because the point is you don’t every time get what you want, how you want it, when you want it.Ask your Mrs.
I wouldn't need to call round to your gaff, while you're at work, if she did.
What on Earth has my sexual preferences got to do with Levy being shit at his job?
You have to compromise and accept what you get sometimes.
My money is on Iraola not chosing his next move until its settled that Valverde has a new contract at Bilbao. Once that's done, I'd expect him to join Spurs unless the new American owners at Everton convince him that their hedge fund ownership will be more successful than Tottenham's.
The big domino will be if City sacked Pep after just extending his contract. They could pluck most anyone they wanted, which would open up one of the bigger jobs and either set off a long or short chain reaction. If they fall victim to recency bias and snap up Kompany, I think Bayern hire Alonso and it's a very short chain reaction. If they hired Flick, the Barca maybe hires Valverde, and Iraola gets to go home to Bilbao.
The big domino will be if City sacked Pep after just extending his contract. They could pluck most anyone they wanted, which would open up one of the bigger jobs and either set off a long or short chain reaction. If they fall victim to recency bias and snap up Kompany, I think Bayern hire Alonso and it's a very short chain reaction. If they hired Flick, the Barca maybe hires Valverde, and Iraola gets to go home to Bilbao.
