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pipes said:
I think Poch had decent backing, but either identified shite players, or agreed to them coming in.

As for the rest of your post, could not agree more. I think ENIC deserve a chance to show they’ll pump money into transfers and I think that chance should be longer than ten days, maybe 6-8 windows. To hire José and not give him a huge budget would be stupid in the extreme. And I’m pretty sure all the talk about working with what we have is just talk to stop us being bent over.

But we’ll need several windows as we can’t replace half a dozen players at one time. Maybe three at a time could be integrated. Only two of them will be successful, another regular player will leave and thus will happen each window, so it’ll be three years before we have a top quality first eleven.
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we need to sell/release quickly though and that may mean not getting quite the prices you want.

This window we need a forward and DM at least.
 
Tomo said:
we need to sell/release quickly though and that may mean not getting quite the prices you want.

This window we need a forward and DM at least.
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That’s the double edged sword of “just pay higher wages, Levy you tight cunt”. When we need to upgrade the player, which we should always want to do, shifting them is a nightmare because overall, we pay pretty well.
 
pipes said:
I think Poch had decent backing, but either identified shite players, or agreed to them coming in.

As for the rest of your post, could not agree more. I think ENIC deserve a chance to show they’ll pump money into transfers and I think that chance should be longer than ten days, maybe 6-8 windows. To hire José and not give him a huge budget would be stupid in the extreme. And I’m pretty sure all the talk about working with what we have is just talk to stop us being bent over.

But we’ll need several windows as we can’t replace half a dozen players at one time. Maybe three at a time could be integrated. Only two of them will be successful, another regular player will leave and thus will happen each window, so it’ll be three years before we have a top quality first eleven.
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Well that's what they've done. The talk is real, this song has been played several times before with different managers.
 
Last 5 years net spend
Spurs £95m
Dippers £109m

A difference of £14m but apparently we don't invest in players.

The new stadium is up and running, the debt has been put into long term so I expect to see us investing our profits on the playing side from now on., without going into debt

Caveat : in the Jan tw it is nearly impossible to buy quality although there are 1 or 2 exceptions
 
stevee said:
Last 5 years net spend
Spurs £95m
Dippers £109m

A difference of £14m but apparently we don't invest in players.

The new stadium is up and running, the debt has been put into long term so I expect to see us investing our profits on the playing side from now on., without going into debt

Caveat : in the Jan tw it is nearly impossible to buy quality although there are 1 or 2 exceptions
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Thank you for the vote of confidence Mrs levy I'm sure Daniel will sort you out later.:levyeyes:
 
stevee said:
Last 5 years net spend
Spurs £95m
Dippers £109m

A difference of £14m but apparently we don't invest in players.

The new stadium is up and running, the debt has been put into long term so I expect to see us investing our profits on the playing side from now on., without going into debt

Caveat : in the Jan tw it is nearly impossible to buy quality although there are 1 or 2 exceptions
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Direct net spend is not comparable. Liverpool sold Coutinho for insane money which on its own skewers it. But the point is Klopp got whatever players he wanted and they didn’t only pay the transfer fee but the wages.

We are not as big financially as Liverpool and have had to adopt a very different approach, one that has led to our squad going stale. The stadium is now done and we should be looking at what Liverpool did and understanding how to improve our recruitment.
 
Tomo said:
Direct net spend is not comparable. Liverpool sold Coutinho for insane money which on its own skewers it. But the point is Klopp got whatever players he wanted and they didn’t only pay the transfer fee but the wages.

We are not as big financially as Liverpool and have had to adopt a very different approach, one that has led to our squad going stale. The stadium is now done and we should be looking at what Liverpool did and understanding how to improve our recruitment.
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Yep agree with all that
We also sold Bale for silly money and reinvested all, or nearly all of that.

Nailed it
It is our recruitment that needs improving
 
skywalker68 said:
Not Mr scholar mate I would have us in a position to win things or already winning things top of the table nothing less, none of this driving with the brake on bollocks it has got us nowhere other than what if or nearly.
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skywalker68 said:
Not Mr scholar mate I would have us in a position to win things or already winning things top of the table nothing less, none of this driving with the brake on bollocks it has got us nowhere other than what if or nearly.
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Mmmm......
Just out of interest how would you accomplish that
 
Devanteswing said:
If people are serious about wanting change then I believe there is a very easy way to get levy paying attention.

Stop buying food and drink inside the ground. With the cash that they're pulling in it would make him sit up and take notice.

Personally I dont think that were there yet but I must admit the season has left a sour taste in my mouth.

We spent a shit load of cash in the summer to be fair to levy but it was after 2 years of pretty much spending fuck all (see chelsea playing the victims because they lost ONE WINDOW) so you could argue and please let's not as it's been done to death that the man who saw us through that period deserved far more time than he got with his 3 new players.

Then you have the replacement. A big name, certainly a winner but then it gets strange levy after hiring him then does an interview moaning about modern footballs obsession with spending and even top four.

So what does he want? I find the premise that you hire a notoriously demanding manager, one who needs absolute fortunes to succeed and then moan about spending money and keep getting him to pretend he doesnt want new players really really strange. And by the way Jose was pretending. You can tell by the way his already claiming son or moura cant play up front and his real reluctance to play youth. I don't think his changed whatsoever.

So if jose hasn't changed then levy has a decision to make. We need a rebuild. Its clear the new coach bounce is well finished. So we need a rebuild, pretty desperately.

I think before levy would have wanted the coach to introduce a couple of youngsters at least. But jose shows no signs of having any intention of that. See his shocking treatment of foyth. If only he was so clinical everytime aurier makes a mistake ..

So we could be looking at half a billion quid that's needed from a chairman who doesnt want to spend big and with this stadium already has a billion quid worth of debt.

I'm really worried. I can see this going really really wrong just at the right time to ensure that next season is also a right of. (Get to the end of the summer window and jose will realise just after it that he isn't getting what he wants. He then silks, we have a really bad start , he gets sacked and we start again.

I hate football
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It was always going to go wrong. Levy and Mourinho is a marriage made by a divorce lawyer. Its whether their is any short term gain before its knives out that was Levy's little gamble...guess we will see.
 
stevee said:
Last 5 years net spend
Spurs £95m
Dippers £109m

A difference of £14m but apparently we don't invest in players.

The new stadium is up and running, the debt has been put into long term so I expect to see us investing our profits on the playing side from now on., without going into debt

Caveat : in the Jan tw it is nearly impossible to buy quality although there are 1 or 2 exceptions
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Not that I disagree with your overall point, but the Dippers have also spent about an extra half billion on wages in that same time period.

It’s wages that reflect the calibre of player.

That said, Leicester prove your point.
 
stevee said:
Last 5 years net spend
Spurs £95m
Dippers £109m

A difference of £14m but apparently we don't invest in players.

The new stadium is up and running, the debt has been put into long term so I expect to see us investing our profits on the playing side from now on., without going into debt

Caveat : in the Jan tw it is nearly impossible to buy quality although there are 1 or 2 exceptions
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Do 10 years and the problem will become more apparent
 
stevee said:
Last 5 years net spend
Spurs £95m
Dippers £109m

A difference of £14m but apparently we don't invest in players.

The new stadium is up and running, the debt has been put into long term so I expect to see us investing our profits on the playing side from now on., without going into debt

Caveat : in the Jan tw it is nearly impossible to buy quality although there are 1 or 2 exceptions
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And in the last 5 years the wage spending difference is around 500m more by pool (around 100m per season). Investment comparisons are not even close
 
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