Holtby's gone? lol, I didn't know if that was the case, thought he was still our player.
Not sure if you're joking and that you have had this discussion a million times over. The BILD Zeitung, which although a shit newspaper and the German equivalent of The Sun in England, had an exclusive just weeks after the summer window had been closed that HSV had already signed Holtby on a permanent after triggering a clause in the contract. The BILD Zeitung, as shit as it is, still has excellent contacts in German football, so it might be gospel.
But officially, there has been nothing.