Lol.
Your trolling never works on me. I hate the English nearly as much as you do.
You know this Frankfurter.
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Your trolling never works on me. I hate the English nearly as much as you do.
You know this Frankfurter.
You don’t think Messi is at least on par Steve?
Messi in terms of consistency is better but for pure natural brilliance and ingenuity Maradona is unrivalled I think. Remember the era he played in too, the pitches weren't carpets, the fouling was so much worse and he obviously was a lot more temperamental than Messi.
Messi has been absolutely amazing but Maradona had a swagger and a natural ability that I've never seen before or after.
Agree with pretty much all of this.
I'd have Maradonna at the top. Number of reasons.
He won a World Cup pretty much single handed. I'm sure there were some good players in that Argentinian team, but I just remember them being bang average.
Remember also that this was still the era of defenders being able to foul whenever they liked and get away with it. But DM was just so strong, so quick, so powerful, so athletic. In the lead up to THAT goal Fenwick tries to pull him back as he races past. He just barrelled through the arm like it was paper. All of the other great players you mention would have been halted there and then and could often be fouled out of a game. Messi and Ronaldo can't because the red and yellow card systems have changed and you'd end up with no back 4 if you tried it on these days.
Such a low centre of gravity, he'd also use his upper body so well to lean into you so you couldn't reach his legs to pull him down (Ossie was good at that with his arms and elbows).
Glad I was at the Lane for the match but truth be told I can't remember much about it. Lucky that I've seen Messi and Ronaldo live while following Spurs. Annoyingly I didn't manage to get to the Hoddle 4-2 when Cruyff was playing.
Cruyff is my favourite non-Spurs player of all time, and a great guy in every way, but DM was the better player.
Most Brazilians will tell you Garrincha is the greatest Brazilian of all time, not Pele.
Maradona was a great player in an average side when Argentina won the WC
Pele was a great player in a great side in 1970
Big difference
Brazil probably would have won it anyway without Pele
No chance Argentina would have won it without Maradona as he carried the side in 1986
As good as Messi is for Barca he has never come close to doing that for his country
Especially if it’s red!
Slightly unfair. He got bang average Argie sides with shit managers to 3 major finals.
Carrying them in 2014.
These greatest of all time things only work when people accept there are no right answers, you see them amongst boxing fans all the time.
I'd go for Messi but there are many great great players, Zidane, Xavi,both Ronaldos, Baresi, Pele, Maldini and on and on and on
I'd go for Messi but there are many great great players, Zidane, Xavi,both Ronaldos, Baresi, Pele, Maldini and on and on and on
Agreed he did but didn’t get them over the line
Would love to see Messi play for another side but unlikely with his buy out price
And to be fair you should differentiate the playing positions
For example Moore and Beckenbaur were great defenders but you can’t really compare them to great attackers like Cruyff or Greaves
Villas Boas is a humourless thug imbecile. The number 10 is supposed to be an ambition to emulate Maradona, it's why it's worn. Boas would probably want a team of number 4s, boring
Peter Shilton criticises Maradona over 'Hand of God' after Argentine's death
'It seems he had greatness in him but sadly no sportsmanship.'metro.co.uk
Because of course he would.
sammyspurs
- Dissapointing, but not entirely suprised.
Let's not re-write history. In 1984 the season Maradona joined Napoli they finished 11th in Serie A. 1 point above relegation. The year before that they were 10th avoiding relegation by 2 points.
In the 3 seasons after Diego they finished 8th, 3rd and then 1st.
They'd won 2 trophies in their entire hundred year existence and never won a league title before Maradona. They've never won it since he left either.
Yea, I was wrong saying it was before Maradona. It was during. I should have said before their title win.
But they paid a world record transfer fee.
The idea he did it alone is a fallacy though. They had a good squad during his time there.