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Manager Martin Jol

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That end of season speech after the walk around was great.

In general a lot of his speeches were good. I still remember arbitrary ones he did on the jumbotron before a routine home win. He always spoke well for the club, even on Sky Sports News etc. after defeats. It was his dream job and he carried himself like a Tottenham manager. It was also good for us after not being in Europe for many years or ever seeing us finish that high in the Premier League. So it was also the novelty and breakthrough element, combined with his own knowledge of the history of the club. You could tell he wanted to be there.
 
Aaron Lennon on Martin Jol helping him settle in at Spurs when he first joined

“He was unbelievable. I absolutely loved working for Martin Jol. Honestly, he's some man," Lennon told football.london . "The moment I got there, I was really homesick and he was fantastic with me. He was giving me extra days off to try and get me to adapt to London.

"Just the confidence he gave me as a young player coming into a new big club, a new environment, and literally put his arm around me and let me flourish to be the player that I became. He was so important for me.

"He was tactically very good, man management even better, and all around a genuinely lovely, lovely man, one of the nicest guys you'll meet in football. He actually cared about you as a human being, not just you as a football player, and I couldn't speak highly enough of him, honestly, he's still to this day one of my actual favourites."
 
Aaron Lennon on Martin Jol helping him settle in at Spurs when he first joined

“He was unbelievable. I absolutely loved working for Martin Jol. Honestly, he's some man," Lennon told football.london . "The moment I got there, I was really homesick and he was fantastic with me. He was giving me extra days off to try and get me to adapt to London.

"Just the confidence he gave me as a young player coming into a new big club, a new environment, and literally put his arm around me and let me flourish to be the player that I became. He was so important for me.

"He was tactically very good, man management even better, and all around a genuinely lovely, lovely man, one of the nicest guys you'll meet in football. He actually cared about you as a human being, not just you as a football player, and I couldn't speak highly enough of him, honestly, he's still to this day one of my actual favourites."
The way Big Martin was treated is still right at the top of a very long list of deplorable actions from our bald goblin overlord
 
If he could have kept carrick he would have had us closer to the top of the league. 3rd would have been achievable. No doubt about that in my mind.

Carrick for Zokora though. Bloody hell.

Imagine Carrick and Berbatov in the same spurs team. Rolls Royce and Bentley Continental type partnership.

Instead we had a Ford Sierra in midfield.
 
If he could have kept carrick he would have had us closer to the top of the league. 3rd would have been achievable. No doubt about that in my mind.

Carrick for Zokora though. Bloody hell.

Imagine Carrick and Berbatov in the same spurs team. Rolls Royce and Bentley Continental type partnership.

Instead we had a Ford Sierra in midfield.
Agree.

Hence why Ferguson ruthlessly targeted both players.
 
Apart from Ange, who is bulletproof for some reason.

He guarantees a trophy in his second season and 25million Australian supporters.

Daniel goes to sleep dreaming about kangaroos these days.

At current rates we will have half a million paying members soon. A fair majority in oz and South Korea.

There’s always method in the madness.
 
Lennon did an interview this week and he was really praising Ramos as a manager. Said he was amazing tactically and it was probably down to him for us winning the final in 2008.
Ramos is one of those cases were he was a perfectly good manager. It just did not work with us. A big reason according to Darren Bent (I know, pinch of salt) was because he implemented a strict diet that did not sit well with the players and tried to micromanage stuff off the field. Rather than it being about tactics.
 
Ramos is one of those cases were he was a perfectly good manager. It just did not work with us. A big reason according to Darren Bent (I know, pinch of salt) was because he implemented a strict diet that did not sit well with the players and tried to micromanage stuff off the field. Rather than it being about tactics.

was he the one that took away the ketchup in the canteen or was that AVB?
 
I'd imagine Ange doesnt mind a bit of ketchup or hot sauce in the canteen
I can totally see Ange liking some ketchup. But based on the few videos we have had into the canteen (a day in the life with Kulusevski for example) there doesn't seem to be a lot of food being served that has ketchup as a good option.

Could just be that Kulu puts more focus on his diet than some others I guess. Or Conte's diet bits stuck with the kitchen staff.
 
I can totally see Ange liking some ketchup. But based on the few videos we have had into the canteen (a day in the life with Kulusevski for example) there doesn't seem to be a lot of food being served that has ketchup as a good option.

Could just be that Kulu puts more focus on his diet than some others I guess. Or Conte's diet bits stuck with the kitchen staff.

tbf i think the players are just more professional about their diet now, well some of them anyway
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Ramos is one of those cases were he was a perfectly good manager. It just did not work with us. A big reason according to Darren Bent (I know, pinch of salt) was because he implemented a strict diet that did not sit well with the players and tried to micromanage stuff off the field. Rather than it being about tactics.
Interesting debate this because I do think it plays towards the club's culture and ambition (lack of). For that brief flicker under Ramos when the players bought in, we could have a winning focus against the best teams. That 5-1 demolition of Woolwich followed 90 mins of playing them off the park at the Emirates hasn't been seen since. Then we came back in the final to defeat a very good Chelsea side. (BTW, we haven't scored in a cup final since then.)

But, and I admit now these are rumours, Ramos's strict requirements were abandoned by players with common offenders like Huddlestone and Bentley the names I heard who loved a trip to the golden arches instead.

Not sure how true that is. I certainly can't back that up. My whole point though is I thought Ramos was not a bad manager, just one who couldn't get a team to accept his high standards set to win.
 
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