You actually wrote all that? You give totti a run for his money (probably copy and paste )
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Manager Mauricio Pochettino
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So you couldn’t name another manager who could improve us? I know our history so don’t fucking lecture me. Why aren’t Huddersfield fans moaning that they’ve never won 3 titles in a row since the ‘20’s? One of the many clubs who have won more titles than us. I know every single thing we’ve won - even down to the Daily Express 5 a side at Wembley Empire Pool in 1972 (look it up). You don’t win things for crowds - if you did West Ham would be the biggest club in the world with the 250,000 at Wembley in 1923, give or take a few Bolton fans. You’ve got a bloody cheek saying I’m trying to belittle our club - I’m just trying to keep things in perspective. Nobody in their right mind could argue that we’re a title winning monster - 2 titles in 136 years? Why don’t you do some research before trying to belittle me? Two titles in a 136 years. And suddenly we’ve got a god given right to another? Jesus. No wonder other fans laugh at us. If there was a public execution in Hyde Park (or Wembley) it would smash all previous attendance records, so crowds... And again, please don’t lecture me on our history. I’d support the club even if we were getting 200 fans in the Conference as long as we played in Tottenham because I’m a sap. I wouldn’t pay £70 to get in though. My loyalty isn’t infinite.
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Some truth in that, but Poch will come good given time
Levy is lucky he sacked AVB, hired Poch, and pays him 8M a year?
Nothing to do with being a chairman who made the right choices? Poch just fell out of the sky and landed on his desk...
He could have appointed de Boer. He went with the unpopular choice, and deserves some credit for that.
He wont get credit from some people. 15th to 3rd and 2nd is not improvement unless you win the Carabou
I can understand why people get pissed off with Levy - his parsimony can be frustrating, but the same people refuse to recognise how far we’d fallen. All this talk about European glory and rich tradition is just a load of horseshit if we’re finishing 13th every year. We nearly went out of business ffs. You’ve got the older brigade moaning that we haven’t won anything and the newer lot moaning about coming only 3rd. It’s a tough crowd. If you don’t fight back you’re consigned to history. That nearly happened to us.
100% I think as a fan base we massively overestimate our players. Getting top 4 for several seasons is a big achievement considering, Poch has done very very well.
"We've only one 1 trophy in 18 years! Worst era in the club"
Well it sure beats almost going out of business
You’ve heard of Irving Scholar I take it?
I can't claim to know all the details since I was born towards the end of his tenure but I have read up on it.
The current owners and topp brass should obviously be critiqued when needed but they have done tremendous things for the clubs infrastructure and long term well being.
Thing is Joe we could have won the FA Cup twice since our last trophy. You think that would appease most?
Would be the same arguments.....”all our players will leave soon you think they and Poch is satisfied with domestics? We need to spend big to win the real trophy’s”
You can’t win trophies if you no longer exist. I don’t want to sound like a Levy fan boy (Stratford) but some people either don’t know, or refuse to admit, how much of a mess we were in. There should be some perspective when commenting on the owners. Again, I’m no fan of Levy or Lewis, but before them we were fucked.
Love our history but to call us big and illustrious when we’ve won two league cups in about 25 years is quite bold. Same stuff we dig out Liverpool for. I’d say it’s completely arrogant to say Poch isn’t worthy of the club
If anything our history acts more like a millstone around our necks as the expectation/frustration spills out on to the pitch when things don’t go so well.
It's a bit of a case of "he who has wants more" at play amongst the fans in my opinion. Fans of clubs struggling to fight off relegation just want to survive. Fans of clubs at the lower end of the table want to move up into the top 10. Fans of clubs in the top 10-7 spaces want Europa League and so on and so forth.
And fans are also very quick to forget where they were only a few short seasons ago (or even a few months ago.)
Personally I don’t expect anything. I’ve enjoyed the football we’ve played in the last 3 years and that seems to be tailing off. As
Airfixx
said in another thread, it’s a shame that many of our fans haven’t enjoyed the (comparative) good times. No, we’ve won nothing, but it was a joy to watch some of the football we’ve played. I watch now - not because we’re fantastic, but because I have to. You know?
Starting to support a club because of how many trophies they win is literally kids behaviour. Spurs play good football and yeah it is looking rough now but we will again. Either our players refind their form or they are replaced by new players that fit into Poch/the managers philosophy. Or we adapt to a style of football that works with what we have. And football doesn't have to be high intensity to be beautiful either.Personally I don’t expect anything. I’ve enjoyed the football we’ve played in the last 3 years and that seems to be tailing off. As
I am a big fan of the ekkono model of football because it puts focus on developing smart players, that read the play and make good decisions that eliminate mistakes. It's the system that Barcelona and PSG uses for example. The local top flight team where I grew up has adopted it as well and it took a year but now they play honest to god great football even if it took a year for the players to get the system. Point being that just because Poch's current tactics don't work don't mean that the beautiful football is gone. All we need is one little tweak and we will be back to looking great.
At this point, perhaps it's worth remembering it took Ferguson a few years to win a trophy at man u. And the season that they did, they finished 13th.
Inherited a mess. Took 3 years to rebuild said mess , including the removal of star players that, to be fair,liked a drink.
This was done in a time when champions league was non existent and cos of the murderous dippers, we didn't have European football anyway, and the FA cup was held in higher regard.
Not suggesting pochettino will be another Ferguson, but this season might be his crucible at spurs in the same way that 1990 was for Ferguson ( it was considered an open secret that he was out if they didn't win the FA cup, sections of the support wanted him out and so on)
Inherited a mess. Took 3 years to rebuild said mess , including the removal of star players that, to be fair,liked a drink.
This was done in a time when champions league was non existent and cos of the murderous dippers, we didn't have European football anyway, and the FA cup was held in higher regard.
Not suggesting pochettino will be another Ferguson, but this season might be his crucible at spurs in the same way that 1990 was for Ferguson ( it was considered an open secret that he was out if they didn't win the FA cup, sections of the support wanted him out and so on)
We've had 20 years of projects, building for the future , new dawns but silverware has gone missing.
Nobody expects a trophy every 3/4 years but a minor cup this century .
I think the board are very content under Poch and perhaps he knows it. He knows if he gets us to the "Nearly. not quite" stage then fans will be happy, awaiting the "step up to the next level" with some nice football, some great results, but minimal investment.
Perhaps Poch realises now he won't get the backing he feels he needs, perhaps he thinks I tied myself in for another 5 years without a genuine chance of the resources needed.
Who knows, but after seeemingly working our way towards something we seem to have hit a shitty patch that could help end our season long before it should.