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Manager Mauricio Pochettino
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Yeah, cos the new ground needs a load of cunts in it moaning about underachievement, and groaning at every Dier pass, and ironic clapping when Trippier gets subbed....maybe a few pre match Levy Out posters and a flying plane.
DT and Mo marauding as Spurs fans.....
Bet you can’t wait
“Oooh I’ve been a fan for 50 years, it’s never been so shit”
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summed up my opinion quite well. Two people come in and say that he has done so well, and changed formation in 2nd half.
And yet it is not acknowleged that it was also him who set us up with 4-4-2 and a diamond in 1st half. And it cost us 2 goals (could have cost more if they took chances better) and we generally played very bad throughout the half. On attacking side we had 0 shots in first 45. How in the world can you give him credit for the 2nd half without questioning his selection/tactics/mental preparation for 1st?!?! In that sense it seems that Ossie Wembley might be right - he is 100% immune to all criticism.
Ofc we all fcking love the gaffer. He is genully likeable person, and he is absolutely brilliant in player developement. He has created good atmosphere in team and kept the core together for a long time. And he deserves massive credit for that.
But if you praise for one thing, it does not mean that you cannot point out some issues from another field.
Since Xmas period we have had following games -
Wolves (H) 1-3 - played 1st half well. Controlled it. Were in lead. In 2nd half, exactly same lineup absolutely crumbled. We lost.
Man United (H) 0-1 - played 1st half really sloppy and slowly. Gifted rather an easy goal, created very little ourselves. 2nd half, same lineup, we gave them hell. Unfortunately was not enough.
Fulham (A) 2-1 - played 1st half as bad as I remember for past few years. Fulham had much better chances, we were basically asleep. In 2nd half we managed to up our game A LOT. And from dying moments we snached a win.
Chelsea (A) 1-2 - played absolutely horrendous 1st half. Had 0 shots on target. Conceded 2. In 2nd half, changed formation, but with same personell were MUCH MORE in game. Sadly, was not enough.
I mean, this is 3 games in a row. Okay, I admit that there have been issues with injuries and it has made it harder. Yet still, with basically same resources we have been able to play better... for a half of the game. And it makes me worried. As we saw - against teams like Fulham, we might get away with it. But against Chelsea and ManU we could not.
And yet it is not acknowleged that it was also him who set us up with 4-4-2 and a diamond in 1st half. .[/QUOTE]
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And some still see us as a mockery and a joke at the moment. If true this should shut them up. Great find
Wikipedia.
I don't know how accurate, as some sites state league games only.
List of Tottenham Hotspur F.C. managers - Wikipedia
Manager Years Played Won Win %
1
Frank Brettell 1898–1899 63 37 58.732
Mauricio Pochettino 2014– 244 138 56.563
Arthur Turner 1942–1946 49 27 55.10* Stats correct as of 20 December 2018
Wikipedia.
I don't know how accurate, as some sites state league games only.
List of Tottenham Hotspur F.C. managers - Wikipedia
Manager Years Played Won Win %
1
2
3
* Stats correct as of 20 December 2018
Where's Sir Bill? Either way with managers like Gerry Francis, Christian Gross, ducking Jacques Santini & poor old Juande everything is rosy looking upward for a change. Those who chose to not enjoy it well I pity you when the cycle stops and it's shit all over again.
Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino suggests stadium move has hindered trophy chances
Poch makes some great comments on the above link about where we were, where we are, the challenges we have been faced with, the competition we've had and why people need to get a grip. Touted for 6th place finishes year on year yet getting well into the Champions League places & comfortably as well is better than any of us could and should have hoped for until the next phase is complete. Lucky to have him
I do like a lot of what you say, but we have 3 first teamers ( top 3 scorers ) missing & Dembele gone/not available that must have a big effect on the rest of the squad, (remember when I played grassroots we had a lot of goal scorers even in games when we were 2-0 down you looked round and thought he'd score or he'd score or he will, or me, and we won most of the matches those few seasonsI think
Two people come in and say that he has done so well, and changed formation in 2nd half.
And yet it is not acknowleged that it was also him who set us up with 4-4-2 and a diamond in 1st half. And it cost us 2 goals (could have cost more if they took chances better) and we generally played very bad throughout the half. On attacking side we had 0 shots in first 45. How in the world can you give him credit for the 2nd half without questioning his selection/tactics/mental preparation for 1st?!?! In that sense it seems that Ossie Wembley might be right - he is 100% immune to all criticism.
Ofc we all fcking love the gaffer. He is genully likeable person, and he is absolutely brilliant in player developement. He has created good atmosphere in team and kept the core together for a long time. And he deserves massive credit for that.
But if you praise for one thing, it does not mean that you cannot point out some issues from another field.
Since Xmas period we have had following games -
Wolves (H) 1-3 - played 1st half well. Controlled it. Were in lead. In 2nd half, exactly same lineup absolutely crumbled. We lost.
Man United (H) 0-1 - played 1st half really sloppy and slowly. Gifted rather an easy goal, created very little ourselves. 2nd half, same lineup, we gave them hell. Unfortunately was not enough.
Fulham (A) 2-1 - played 1st half as bad as I remember for past few years. Fulham had much better chances, we were basically asleep. In 2nd half we managed to up our game A LOT. And from dying moments we snached a win.
Chelsea (A) 1-2 - played absolutely horrendous 1st half. Had 0 shots on target. Conceded 2. In 2nd half, changed formation, but with same personell were MUCH MORE in game. Sadly, was not enough.
I mean, this is 3 games in a row. Okay, I admit that there have been issues with injuries and it has made it harder. Yet still, with basically same resources we have been able to play better... for a half of the game. And it makes me worried. As we saw - against teams like Fulham, we might get away with it. But against Chelsea and ManU we could not.
also we don't know how tired the players are, 9 played up to the WC semi's how much rest did they get.
As you say there should be a balance.
The problem people have with Ossie Wembley is that he ONLY criticises Poch.
He never praises the teams performances.
He never praises Poch.
No that’s what you choose to see. I have repeatedly stated that he is a good coach, that he is the best I have seen at Spurs. I have done this to you so why lie? You’re either being dishonest ( not the first time with you) or you just lack the intelligence to understand this.
And yet....and yet only 1 of us id dishonest enough to end up in the bin.
Is this more lies from you, along with the one where you said that you have praised the teams performances but was unable to provide any evidence.
Or the one where you said it was a waste of your time finding a post of yours, praising the performances as you didn't need to. But was perfectly ready to waste your time finding quotes to criticise Poch.
Here's a challenge for you, if you can post a link, from the time I joined (Jan 18) which shows just one post (the whole post with no editing or altering) of yours where you've praised Poch, unequivocally, with no ifs, buts, or maybes, I will apologise wholeheartedly and unreservedly.
Go on, you know you would love to prove me wrong.
And yet....and yet only 1 of us id dishonest enough to end up in the bin.
Is this more lies from you, along with the one where you said that you have praised the teams performances but was unable to provide any evidence.
Or the one where you said it was a waste of your time finding a post of yours, praising the performances as you didn't need to. But was perfectly ready to waste your time finding quotes to criticise Poch.
Here's a challenge for you, if you can post a link, from the time I joined (Jan 18) which shows just one post (the whole post with no editing or altering) of yours where you've praised Poch, unequivocally, with no ifs, buts, or maybes, I will apologise wholeheartedly and unreservedly.
Go on, you know you would love to prove me wrong.
I went in bin because of you yeah, right? What a narcissist - newsflash no really cares about you.
And you know full well why I go in the bin it's because I break the orthodoxy on our manager which is ultimate no go area on Spurs forums. Rather than facing or challenging the point just get rid of the person saying it. Well done you.
Again more lies I actually referenced the Everton away performance to you but seemingly I have go through all of the all match threads as if this proofs anything.
As for wanting a post that praises Poch why not look the post just above where I said he is a good coach and the best I have seen at the club. But you don't see that do you because you the football version of Mary Whitehouse - you're just looking for what you want to get offended by.
Best manager in your life time, BUT STILL NOT GOOD ENOUGH
Keep dancing to my tune.
Got you to post on the match thread.
Got you to Poch a tiny bit of praise,
Dance little doggy, dance.
So because I don't believe he is good enough to win silverware that automatically invalidates that opinion hey?
So let me fire a question to you: With the team we have why haven't we won anything in the last 5 years? What's the fault here?
Poch has his faults and is not above criticism, he's also not the finished article. Many of us just believe the positives outweigh the negatives. With you it's just about silverware and you like to bring Klopps genius up constantly but he's lost 6 out of the 7 cup finals his teams have contested. Nothings a given.
At 47 years of age and decade of club management is there much more scope for improvement? Managers like players have their shelf life - we've even seen that with Mourhino.
As for Klopp any manager that gets a side containing Karius, Robertson, Henderson and Milner to name a few to CL final is a top level coach. There is strong possibility that they will win the league this season and I firmly believe we have a better team and squad than theirs.