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MENTAL FORTITUDE
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That’s not what a lot of posters are saying though
Of course we all want to get better and we will but it will take time but meanwhile we’ve over achieved and punched well above our weight which has been brilliant compared to the dross we’ve suffered in the past
I don’t know how old you are but I still wince at the garbage we served up in the 70s under Terry Neil
I still went and supported us though
That is a shit mentality to though, try to take some joy with where we are at. It's fine to want more, but appreciate what we have.
Teams are too transient to ascribe mental failings to, and certainly at Spurs the manager merry go round has always prevented any long term manifesto being set, and played out (like Wenger or Ferguson)
The fact is that as good as our team can be, it doesn't have the same thoroughbread qualities that vast amounts of money can buy. What is worth more, to me is that the clubs ethos is embraced, of trying to win every game instead of going out and busting your balls not to lose it, and hoping that you might get a break.
But I suspect that was never the core of your original post, you just wanted to flog your oft repeated them about being a selling club.
Years ago I went by the name of Mentalstrength. I used it because George Graham always talked of that being the thing he looked for in a player. At the time and even now I think that has to be part of the basket of qualities you want in a player, but.......
A percentage of that. Maybe the significant part is what your manager adds in terms of nurture.
For whatever reason our mental fortitude/strength is rightly in question.
Lose this top 3/4 battle and it is a question I do not believe will go away or one that Pochettino will ever have the chance to fully answer.
A percentage of that. Maybe the significant part is what your manager adds in terms of nurture.
For whatever reason our mental fortitude/strength is rightly in question.
Lose this top 3/4 battle and it is a question I do not believe will go away or one that Pochettino will ever have the chance to fully answer.
22 mate, really got into it during the Jol years so I’ve been spoilt, but we’ve been steadily progressing for the last decade now and we’re so near the top I don’t want to settle for just a top 4 finish and a good cup run.
Who knows what the future will bring, in another decade it could have all gone tits up so I’d at least like something to look back on this period fondly, one bit of proper investment in the squad will see us over the line I’m sure of it.
I just believe that the outfield influence and ability to directly influence those across the field is an advantage
An on-field captain who will:
tell Dele to cut out the showboating, pointless flicks, nutmegs, looking for fouls until we're three up
tell Son to trackback and cover whoever is 'left-back of the week' when under pressure
tell Dier and Lamela to pass to one of our own.
tread on Eriksen when he delivers another set piece into the wall or corner at knee level
Go down when time needs to be killed, in fact anything within the law when seeing out a game
Go into the managers office and give an on-field opinion on team selection, substitutions and pointless rotations.
Berate Wanyama, Aurier, Sanchez, Sissoko for taking four attempts to control the ball.
Request Trippier try to beat his man and hit the touchline, rather than a predictable cross or inside pass to Eriksen.
Tell Kane to pull his finger out.
This is just for starters!
A captain such as Dave Mackay springs to mind! He wouldn't have put up with all this crap. If they didn't do as he said he'd have stood on their throat.
tell Dele to cut out the showboating, pointless flicks, nutmegs, looking for fouls until we're three up
tell Son to trackback and cover whoever is 'left-back of the week' when under pressure
tell Dier and Lamela to pass to one of our own.
tread on Eriksen when he delivers another set piece into the wall or corner at knee level
Go down when time needs to be killed, in fact anything within the law when seeing out a game
Go into the managers office and give an on-field opinion on team selection, substitutions and pointless rotations.
Berate Wanyama, Aurier, Sanchez, Sissoko for taking four attempts to control the ball.
Request Trippier try to beat his man and hit the touchline, rather than a predictable cross or inside pass to Eriksen.
Tell Kane to pull his finger out.
This is just for starters!
A captain such as Dave Mackay springs to mind! He wouldn't have put up with all this crap. If they didn't do as he said he'd have stood on their throat.
Probably liverpool and the cunts up road. Although saying that, can you imagine this place if after 10 years of Poch we still haven't won anything and still no net spend? John would be committing Harikari live on YouTube and Scott would buy himself a plane and continually fly above the Lane with a 'spend some Fucking money banner!'
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They aren't even close for me. Woolwich aren't fans though, they are spectators, there's a big difference.
I had second thoughts and edited my post
I think it was January actually Joe. Around the time you started claiming that I hated Spurs.I said toHonest John last season that I thought we’d peaked, and received some hilarious old guff about not being a proper fan for my trouble.
I coped then and I’ll cope now.ochlol:
An agenda you've been driving at ever since.
It all revolved around my claim that we had shown what a magnificent fan base we had, and we were potentially a much bigger club than you ever give us credit for...I big us up, you drag us down. You even claimed one player was bigger than the club
And yet you say I hate Spurs.
I'll never say you hate your club Joe. But you do come across as being frightened of success. You seem more comfortable with the status quo
Edit. You seem to make a lot of enemy's on here
Joe Clash
. I don't see myself as one of them so I'll quit now and let you have the last word
I think there is something there about mental fortitude, whether this is down the average age of the squad still being relatively young, or a lack of experience (as in coming through hard times) I'm not sure.
Poch's tactics do, at times, seem one dimensional and our seeming inability to break down a well organised defence is a problem. Also our inability to close out tight games is a problem.
As to having a "nasty bastard" in the team as captain such as a Keane or such like is a good point. However I think that football is changing, so there's less of those players around. Every one, players and managers, are terrified of upsetting a player that fucks up. Most players today can't handle criticism from team mates and managers.
Think back to the 70's and 80's nearly every team had at least one "nasty bastard" that would rip their own players a new one for any mistakes made.
As for outfield captain, well IMO you don't need the captain to do this, it could be anyone. For example, people have mentioned Roberts and Mackay on here, but for the most part they weren't captain.
As for the answer to how do we fix it.. Fuck knows. Maybe older (winners) players.
Poch's tactics do, at times, seem one dimensional and our seeming inability to break down a well organised defence is a problem. Also our inability to close out tight games is a problem.
As to having a "nasty bastard" in the team as captain such as a Keane or such like is a good point. However I think that football is changing, so there's less of those players around. Every one, players and managers, are terrified of upsetting a player that fucks up. Most players today can't handle criticism from team mates and managers.
Think back to the 70's and 80's nearly every team had at least one "nasty bastard" that would rip their own players a new one for any mistakes made.
As for outfield captain, well IMO you don't need the captain to do this, it could be anyone. For example, people have mentioned Roberts and Mackay on here, but for the most part they weren't captain.
As for the answer to how do we fix it.. Fuck knows. Maybe older (winners) players.
And this atitude, boys and girls, is probably the reason for 1 league cup this century...
Exactly. Which is why I can't understand every match day thread being oveloaded with people criticising the melters.
Following your football team is, or at least should be, an emotional experience. During a match people get frizzed up and let off steam. Go to any stadium in the country and you'll find fans melting during a match. But if you do it here, you cant be Spurs
I remember the relegation battle mid 70s and the year down , full of pain but the club was run that "hope" was always around the corner.
We still went out and bought Peter Taylor a record British signing, he was shit but the will was to rise even if we failed .
Then promoted we made the world stop with our world cup winners .
Glory was on both sides of those dark days . 3 in the early 70s and 3 in the early 80s.
The club never stood for second best even in failure