Another O Keefe masterclass.
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Another O Keefe masterclass.
He really does know sweet FA!
the beauty of a suicide system like this. falls to shit when one player is out.
I can’t tell from that picture or remember through the haze of anger numbing beer, but I thought Madders was pretty quick on to whoever played the ball but just lost the challenge, like he ran past the geordie, whoever it was. Just missed the challenge, which opened up the whole of our half.Completly disagree, let's not forget what happened to Van der Ven last year!!!
The goal (2nd goal) came as a direct result of us not pressing high up the pitch effectively. There was zero pressure on Joelinton. That's it.
This is a decent defensive line, the only potential issue would be with Romero moving up the pitch rather than dropping....... But Joelinton is not pressed, the closet man is Madders, which is a bit of a mismatch in the first place. Golden rule of every Highline, YOU MUST PUT PRESSURE ON THE OPPO PLAYER ON THE BALL>
Might be misremembering or thinking of another passage.
It was joelinton. Maddioson had been trying to press quickly on their receiving player and we were committing men forward around him and we'd had a bit of joy prior to that. But it was a bit of a tired attempt. Joelinton turned and pulled clear of him really easily and as soon as he did we were wide open. I knew what was coming straight away once he'd turned and played it out to the right
I think you might be right.
Completly disagree, let's not forget what happened to Van der Ven last year!!!
The goal (2nd goal) came as a direct result of us not pressing high up the pitch effectively. There was zero pressure on Joelinton. That's it.
This is a decent defensive line, the only potential issue would be with Romero moving up the pitch rather than dropping....... But Joelinton is not pressed, the closet man is Madders, which is a bit of a mismatch in the first place. Golden rule of every Highline, YOU MUST PUT PRESSURE ON THE OPPO PLAYER ON THE BALL>
Agree. But in the absence of pressure on the ball player, you would normally drop back rather than holding high. Your freeze-frame shows 3 dropping and 1 stepping up. If Romero is already dropping then he can at least put pressure on Murphy, and Dragusin can stay with Isak. Maybe they still score, but it's not a tap-in.
Instead, with Porro and Udogie caught wrong side of Isak and Murphy, it's basically a 2-on-1; Dragusin has to come across to cover Murphy, and Isak gets a tap-in.
Romero might argue that if Dragusin had stepped up with him, then Murphy is offside. Maybe he would have a point, but with no pressure on the ball and no Van de Ven cheat-code then I would argue for dropping.
What you absolutely can't afford is one CB stepping up and one dropping, and maybe we put that down to a relatively new CB pairing.
There hasn’t really been anything said. Always concerning with us when it’s a bit secret. All Ange said was they didn’t play him with the international break coming up.
my ustion is What have they been doing in training ?
Ange has had 6 months with the Dragon what coaching has been done with Dragon & VDV, or Dragon with Romero ?
I know lots on here weep when I go on about coaching, But to me its all about coaching,
That’s fair.
The critique of Romero is more to do with his body shape being square, rather than side on.
Maybe this is a consequence of him swapping to LCB???? It wouldn’t be natural for him to turn his body with his left side facing up the pitch, his default position (because he’s always on the right) is to have his right side facing up the pitch.
Makes you think it's serious and we aren't being told because of the break. On the Friday presser before the Woolwich game we will be told he's done his mcl and will miss the season...
so surely Remero should have been on the right, with the Dragon on the Left
Remero's best position is on the right, VDV position is the Left, Surely Dragon (who only plays when one of the other 2 is missing) should have been coached to play Left side & Right side, once again back to coaching
We've played them that way before and Dragusin had similar positional issues on his non-preferred side. I didn't mind the swap this time. Asking the weaker player to play an unfamiliar role is arguably a double whammy.
No.
We've seen Dragusin on the left, and he's been quite shite. The drop-off in lots of areas of his game is magnified more than if it was Romero. The balance is way better, compromised but nowhere near as bad if Dragusin was on the left, due to the fact he's simply a much better footballer.
Yes sure, but then it's up to the players to implement, stay focused, communicate and have split-second timing and understanding. There's no substitute for match time together to build that understanding, but I'm also getting increasingly worried that Romero's focus is not where it should be.
I do understand that, But Romero is the key player in Ange system of getting the ball out from the back
when VDV plays its normally Romero that plays the ball forward from the right side
playing romero on the Left cuts lots of his passes out,
The thing is our attacking play was fine, we created more than enough chances to score but we lost the game down to defensive mistakes!
Would it have been a different game with Solanke up front, maybe - same as if we had VDV pace to save us , I understand mistakes happen in football and they get punished but we seem to keep making the same mistakes over and over again , what the fuck do these guys do in training? Do they even train or do they just go to the ground to make some shitty videos for social media?
Yeah the playing out aspect is seperate to the defensive side but still a similar (difficult) decision. Dragusin has looked awkward playing out from left CB previous times, particularly on the half-turn to find Udogie, Maddison or LW. They were both "decent" playing out yesterday instead of one "very good" and one "shite". Neither solution is great but I tend to prefer the more balanced version as per
Guido 🇺🇦
comments.think maybe Romero's probelm is he wants to win, and that over rules his football head, trouble is I think he see's many in this team don't want to win, (many appear to be ok with winning or losing) they don't have that drive to win
I;ve been around a few academy clubs, and yes they do weed out lots of the kids that just lack that drive, but many of the coaches keep kids on because they like the parents, the parent help out etc, or they keep on kids because they 15 to make up the squad