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Player Micky van de Ven
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He is genuinely shit.
Take his pace away and your left with William Prunier.
Caring too much. Come on, every defender knows the double jeopardy rule. Sarr wasn't even getting the ball and if Micky thought he was, let him get it and let him take his shot. Yes, he probably scores but we keep 11 on the pitch and we don't capitulate. Sorry, this was far from caring too much. It was actually not caring.
In fairness, you did put Sonny and BJ together......
I think he just made a stupid decision in the moment. It happens.
This is a bad take. A very bad take. VDV will force a move in the Summer. Caring too much is defo not the problem here. He beleives everything he reads about himself and thinks he's far too good to be playing for us in these current circumstances.
He cared under Ange. He risked his hamstrings every game for us and we'd see how fast he was. How many sprints has he done this season? Fair enough if he's minding himself more to avoid injury, but when you start minding yourself every game then you quickly become a player who's not giving 100%. And VDV is a player who has not given us 100% this season.
I hope he proves me wrong. But watch the Liverpool game where we drew without him. Watch the recovery run Dragusin makes in the final minute and watch how he throws his body at the Ekitike shot to stop them scoring a last minute goal. Does VDV do that? Dragusin isn't on the same planet as VDV in terms of ability but one player is giving 100% while the other is minding himself. Since his goal line clearance in the Europa Leaguefinal (which I'll be forever greatful for), I don't think his heart has been in it. He's been playing in second gear all season. Caring too much is definitely not the case anyway lol
I agree with many that Mickey has been vastly overrated as a defender but he hasn't been "stupid" - until this year. Clearly feeling the pressure and not great at dealing with it. Not on his own there sadly.
But surely a player doesn't do a flip like that in under a season without some underlying cause that isn't him drinking his own bathwater?
I think the issue was Franks timidity and lack of belief in the players, after a season in which nearly all of them had just won the highest award they ever have....OTOH he is Dutch and what is a Dutch footballer without the capacity to self-implode just when we think they are going to explode.
In the early minutes he played like he was in the zone, so I don't think he just didn't care.
I agree with you. I think the players absolutely "care" - they just aren't good enough as a group and have no belief or confidence.
Unless we get someone in who can restore some sense of belief/confidence/resilience I think we're down.
The ignoring of Frank and his Overlap interview were huge red flags.
He got rinsed at left back last game and was clearly not giving his all.
He definitely feels he’s above us and has checked out.
I don’t want any player here that doesn’t give their all for this historic club.
Yup. Actions speak louder than words and Micky needs to give us 100% on the pitch for the remaining 7 games ( and yes risk getting injured before the world cup) to prove that he's committed. If he does that then I've no problem with him leaving in the Summer if a bigger club comes sniffing and is willing to pay 60m+. I'd thank him for everything and wish him all the best.
But right now he is sleepwalking into becoming a villain. He can give as many interviews as he likes and dress the situation up whatever way he wants. But all we want to see is VDV giving 100% every game. There is only 7 games left. Run for us. Sprint for us. Throw your body on the line for us. If he can do that and finish the season strongly then I'll always hold Micky in high regard. But as we speak, his reputation is only heading in one direction and nobody wants this toxic ending! Its not good for anyone
Mentally he seems pretty weak and immature, especially for a professional athlete who's earning millions. I can only hope for him that it will improve in the next years, but I'm very skeptical after what I've seen in the last couple of months when it really mattered.
Now compare that to Archie Gray who is 4 years younger.
Now compare that to Archie Gray who is 4 years younger.
Well said. Not even a 6-4 pussy who can run but never win a ball in the air!
We've sold him??.?...when?....
He was poor defensively today I thought, got beaten on a few crosses, didn’t even get off the ground for a few of them. Got done with a ball over the top that Kinsky came out for. I think I got suckered in by the pace but I’m questioning if he’s actually just a bit of a poor defender. Think he might be playing himself out of a move to a top club. I’m completely fine with selling him in the summer for a reasonable fee.
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someone so big, to be so bad in the air is so strange. I thought he was largely okay today. But he's not half the player he's made to be. Gladly see the back of him in the summer, with the rest of them. Don't think we'll get much more than we paid for him at this stage as actual football people can see his limitations.
Yeah, he's a big fanny, let's be honest.
Needs ot toughen up.
Hasn't got that Dutch grit.
