I don't care as long as it's not another ex. Chelsea manager.
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He seems to have a bit of grit to him that I think could win over fans.
While name recognition definitely affects how much patience fans have with managers (and players too tbh) I think most fans enjoy a bit of canny toughness and find it endearing. Especially when in contrast to the moaning of our past couple “name brand” managers.
Not to say he’s necessarily the right pick of course. Just would be nice to have a breath of fresh air in this rotting establishment, whoever it may be
I don't know. We have Gil, Danjuma, Kulu (Not quick, but young and fit) and Richarlison who can all play a pressing game. Jeez even Lucas could be put in that bracket. Pretty much the central midfield fits... Bentancur, Hojbjerg (to some extent), Skipp, Bissouma, Sarr....
To me It's just Harry and Sonny pretty much that don't fit in a high tempo, pressing outfit.
Poch all the fudging way!!!!
Paratrici is in charge of booking actual Diva's rather than just sporting one's now?
Danjuma will be gone, Kulu isn't really a fit for a trad winger in a 4231, we don't have a proper #10 (and would therefore need to sign 2 for far of no back-up), Kane if he stays you'd find a way to work around which would mean the pressing happening beyond him (which would work better in a 433, 352 or 343)
The way I'd see it in terms of 4321:
Kane (Richy)
??? (???) / ??? (Kulu maybe) / Kulu(*) (Gil)
(*Though as prev. mentioned I don't think a trad RW role suits Kulu that well..... )
Just looks stodgy and forced to me.
Shouldn't Djed Spence be on there as well?
I would like to be able to add Danjuma to that list but it doesn't look like he's going to get a chance (for as long as Conte's here anyway) and because of that he'll be sent back in the summer without any real assessment of his first team suitability. We took this player from under the nose of a club fighting relegation; the least we can do is make use of him.
This is why I want Conte gone. He's not going to give these players a chance so he's nothing to us but a huge waste of time, resources and money.
TBF yes him and if we keep him Danjuma as well good point
This person makes some good points, but bringing up that Enrique would need a new GK, defender, and a midfielder seems a bit odd to me - this is true no matter who the manager ends up being, no matter what system they end up running.
I still think Kane could play in the 10. Someone here said look how stymied he is when he drops in to the 10. But they didn't think that it's because he doesn't have a 9 to occupy the other CB who is one of the 2 on his tail. If we played a 4-2-3-1with Kane as the CF he wouldn't have someone man marking him. However, I'm absolutely not convinced he could play in any forward role in a high tempo pressing team.
On the Danjuma issue, if we got a manager in NOW who could make use of him then is there any reason we couldn't keep him? And if not, then surely we could find someone to fill that gap in the payroll?
Good video, the last bit is the most important for me. Even if he's only here short term, the benefits can be longer if he's able to change our system to a more progressive style of play.
Obviously we won't be able to build a complete Enrique team in one window but we can still get a few players in who will improve us. Kane's probably gone so we can use his fee to fund the rebuild.
I think we need a new GK,CB and CAM regardless of who the next manager is so there shouldn't be much of a dilemma of getting players only suited for a manager who might not be here for long. We can buy players under him that will be suitable for any manager after him as well. Especially if we stick to that style of play long term.
Equally though Kane will just typically find himself nose-to-nose with the oppo DM instead..... Which is why i think the false 9 role suits the creative aspect of his game the best. He can just drop back into pockets and exploit gaps that are left and also play quarterback on the counter-attack.
Of course, but therein lies one of the 3-4 bodies I think we'd need to recruit before playing 4231 full time.
I also think we'll get more out of Porro & Udogie if we are playing 433 or 352 too. The outer MFs can split and cover the wide areas easier and leave Skipp in place to do DM things whilst also recycling the ball(*).
(*It's early days in terms of that aspect of his game, but s he grows he's every chance of blossoming into a Carrick type that has to do less and less last-ditch tackling and relies more and more of intelligence.)
But currently playing the No. 9 and 10 (false 9?) without anyone else central means teams can just man mark him without issue. If he's an actual no. 10 with a 9 in front of him then they can't do that and the space he needs is available, or the striker has less cover on him. Either way there's more for the DM/CB of the oppo to be worrying about.
As for Porro/Udogie. If they are all that we Spurs fans appear to want them to be, then I would think that we should be able to employ a Kloppesque tactic of a back 4/2 with full backs who are more forward thinking a la Trent/Robertson. (Remember Kyle/Toby/Jan/Danny)
I realise as Spurs fans we have been indoctrinated over the past 5 years into the "don't concede" philosophy. But we've also seen the fun other (successful) teams have been having with the right personnel and system.
What's been lacking of late is the eager bodies running beyond Kane.... Son, Kulu, WBs...... But it's worked a dream for the most part during Jose & Conte's time. It's most other aspects of things that have been sketchy and inconsistent (to put it mildly).
...I do indeed remember KW & DR and it depends on how you supplement such players. Especially if your FBs aren't lightning quick like those 2. Even then, we still payed 3421 for much of our peak and/or was reliant upon Dembele being a beast.
Klopp's pool at their best has a highly industrious 3 man MF (Fabhino, Henderson & Wijnaldum) played in a 433..... And 3 fwd's that had the legs to press like mad-men.
Of course, the marriage of player attributes and system is everything.
To me 352, 343, 433 aren't inherently defensive formations tho.
It's funny though; after resisting for so long in the UK, 4231 has become the default thinking for so many fans and managers.... Just like 44-facking-2 before it.
3-4-2, 3-4-3 aren’t inherently defensive. But both of those formations are without a shadow of a doubt conservative under Conte. And I’d prefer a back 2/4 no matter who is managing us.What's been lacking of late is the eager bodies running beyond Kane.... Son, Kulu, WBs...... But it's worked a dream for the most part during Jose & Conte's time. It's most other aspects of things that have been sketchy and inconsistent (to put it mildly).
...I do indeed remember KW & DR and it depends on how you supplement such players. Especially if your FBs aren't lightning quick like those 2. Even then, we still payed 3421 for much of our peak and/or was reliant upon Dembele being a beast.
Klopp's pool at their best has a highly industrious 3 man MF (Fabhino, Henderson & Wijnaldum) played in a 433..... And 3 fwd's that had the legs to press like mad-men.
Of course, the marriage of player attributes and system is everything.
To me 352, 343, 433 aren't inherently defensive formations tho.
It's funny though; after resisting for so long in the UK, 4231 has become the default thinking for so many fans and managers.... Just like 44-facking-2 before it.
We’re Tottenham bloody Hotspur after all!
LIFE is conservative under Conte.
In all honesty; I wouldn't have bothered typing any of this with his tenure in mind. He ain't changing for shit.
In doing so my mind has purely been on next season..... When you spoke of Gil and buying players I thought yours was too.
I don't get it; if you don't think them inherently negative then why should they 'offend' your Spurs 'DNA" sensibilities?
It's tough. It's a lovely idea to bring in a young aggressive coach, it's the type of coach I like, but as much as my heart loves the idea, my brain tells me it might not be compatible right now, certainly not a quick or easy fix for a guy like that anyway.
I've liked DeZerbi since his Sassuolo days, but I don't think he'd be particularly compatible with us right now. Unless we were prepared to give him time. What he took over at Brighton was a much better and more conducive structure/team etc than what he'd have here.
But if we were going to do things properly, let's fuck Paratici off and bring in a new DOF/Recruitment director (maybe someone like Geoffrey Moncada currently at Milan or Maurizo Micheli at Napoli or even bring Brighton's bods in with him) and be prepared to give them time, real time, to put the right structure and strategy in place, then that would probably get me quite interested.
For me, it's almost as (more even) important we get the structure and strategy right and the type of coach is right for that structure/strategy, whoever that may be. And if he doesn't quite work out then you keep recruiting coaches then line up with the strategy etc.
If we are just going to keep Paratici then someone like Tuchel (or Potter if he was sacked by Chelsea) would probably be a more pragmatic and symbiotic transitional appointment, hopefully paving the way to to something more like my first paragraph eventually - the same way AVB led to Poch or Potter led to De Zerbi eg.
I've heard good things about Ange Postegoglou at Celtic, but it's a completely different scenario doing good shit at Celtic. Spalletti's doing a fantastic job at Napoli. I generally like the football Enrique wants to play. Could they translate to the PL with us??? Fuck knows...
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