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Management Next Manager Poll (poll reset 11/04/23)

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Next Manager

  • Rodgers

    Votes: 15 3.6%
  • Potter

    Votes: 25 5.9%
  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 177 41.9%
  • Kompany

    Votes: 43 10.2%
  • Slot

    Votes: 91 21.6%
  • Postecoglou

    Votes: 74 17.5%
  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 31 7.3%
  • Xabi Alonso

    Votes: 11 2.6%
  • Stellini

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Frank

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 21 5.0%
  • Zidane

    Votes: 5 1.2%
  • Glasner

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Amorim

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • Carrick

    Votes: 9 2.1%
  • Gallardo

    Votes: 23 5.5%
  • Schmidt

    Votes: 2 0.5%

  • Total voters
    422
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The thing is, that you also want a manager that adapts to the opponent. Was a criticism of Poch that we always played the same way, regardless of who the opponent was. That we should be more defensive and rely on the counter playing the bigger teams and take our game to the lesser opposition.

I do not see the fact that Kompany took the game to City as a plus, because it was not pragmatic. And it's not like he wanted to bin the cup, because his team are in a promotion fight. They're as good as promoted and he could afford to go deeper into the the competition. Unless he was trying to impress the City management, the way Burnley approached the game was suicidal.

Yes, we all want a manger that sets the team up to play expansive football, but if his record against the rest of the top 6 is 0-10 with 30 goals conceded, there will be grumbling. We want expansive football when it's appropriate and we want results-based football when that's what the situation dictates.

Most elite manager or modern managers play mostly one way, Pep can switch formation but the style and the desire to be on the front foot as well as never take counter attack opportunities/be direct is the same. Klopp season after season is the same system/style but it works or at least works with the right players.

Poch changed formation quite a lot from 4231 to 352 to diamond. He still tried his best to play to his methods so in that respect he isn’t different from Klopp, Pep, Arteta.

The reason why it works for other clubs and not ours is scouting/recruitment. Most elite managers have a plan A that they try and perfect and over time build and buy the players to fit just like Arteta has done.

Modern football has gone down the route of perfectionists who have the one vision and want that implemented in full. The more pragmatic managers like say Harry Redknapp who may switch from playing possession football to counter attack football don’t seem to be the ones winning titles. The perfectionist brand seems or at least appears to have a higher ceiling.

I mean yeh we could get a more flexible pragmatic manager but the ceiling on that brand of football appears to be lower.
 
If bringing back a failed manager that left and didn't succeed anywhere else is our best option then we really are in a worse off state than we can imagine.

He succeeded at Saints and he succeeded as much as any other PSG manager which means got every trophy apart from the CL they wanted.

It’s more he can work with young players better than the vast majority of managers and we have 13-15 young players that will form the core of a new team.

The likes of Tuchel or Luis Enrique would be in my view a disaster at this club. We need the best manager for us not the best manager.
 
It’s more he can work with young players better than the vast majority of managers and we have 13-15 young players that will form the core of a new team.
Can he still do that?

The wheels fell off the Poch train here in part because he wanted to move away from working with younger players and developing them.

One of my big fears about bringing back Poch is if he still sees himself as a "superclub manager" that only wants to manage big name signings. Which is by far his weakest skill.
 
and he succeeded as much as any other PSG manager which means got every trophy apart from the CL they wanted.
That doesn't mean anything. My dog could win the Ligue 1 with PSG.
The likes of Tuchel or Luis Enrique would be in my view a disaster at this club. We need the best manager for us not the best manager.
Yea that's obvious as Mou was one of the best managers when we got him and Conte was arguably the best managers when we got him. I don't know what the answer is Tomo, it's just a frustrating time for Spurs fans as you know. Can't win with someone that fit the squad, can't win with someone that has a historically winning CV.
 
He succeeded at Saints and he succeeded as much as any other PSG manager which means got every trophy apart from the CL they wanted.

It’s more he can work with young players better than the vast majority of managers and we have 13-15 young players that will form the core of a new team.

The likes of Tuchel or Luis Enrique would be in my view a disaster at this club. We need the best manager for us not the best manager.
luis enrique is able to work with young players
 
Poch failed here. What would be the difference with him coming back?
For one, I didn't say I wanted Poch back. I said I wanted a manager that would put his head down and do the work rather than complain all the time and throw everyone and everything in the club under the bus. In other words, a Poch-like manager.

As for Poch having failed here, what exactly were you expecting with the resources he had and the upheaval with the move to a new stadium? 3 titles and 2 CL trophies?
 
Yes poch didn't get us over the line but to say he failed is a bit much. He got us to the C final and consistently in the top 4 with a 2nd place finish.

Who did we sign after we finished 2nd:

17/18: sanchez, moura, serge and llorente and a few youngsters that might have potential.

18/19: no one

Complete failure by the club in that period.
 
For one, I didn't say I wanted Poch back. I said I wanted a manager that would put his head down and do the work rather than complain all the time and throw everyone and everything in the club under the bus. In other words, a Poch-like manager.

As for Poch having failed here, what exactly were you expecting with the resources he had and the upheaval with the move to a new stadium? 3 titles and 2 CL trophies?
We couldn't even manage to win at the very least a Cup under Poch and we had one of the best teams in England for a few years with him.

Upheaval with the move? You're joking right.
 
Poch failed here. What would be the difference with him coming back?
Despite my profile pic I'm not necessarily only looking at Poch next, but I think this is a little unfair. Poch built the club up to the point we are now on a shoestring and then wasn't backed.

We wouldn't be anywhere near competing for success without his tenure. Other people have come in and had money to spend and they haven't got us any further along.
 
Despite my profile pic I'm not necessarily only looking at Poch next, but I think this is a little unfair. Poch built the club up to the point we are now on a shoestring and then wasn't backed.

We wouldn't be anywhere near competing for success without his tenure. Other people have come in and had money to spend and they haven't got us any further along.
The Stadium is because of the revenue Poch generated.
The next managers who came in (Jose and Conte) were here because the club grew in reputation thanks to the work Poch did.
People don't realise how lucky Levy got with Jol, Redknapp, Kane and especially Poch. They built the club for him.
 
Despite my profile pic I'm not necessarily only looking at Poch next, but I think this is a little unfair. Poch built the club up to the point we are now on a shoestring and then wasn't backed.

We wouldn't be anywhere near competing for success without his tenure. Other people have come in and had money to spend and they haven't got us any further along.
Poch for sure built a managerial foundation at the club, and I had the best time watching the team under him. I still loved what he did for us and am forever grateful. But at the end of the day success isn't measured by hugs and top 4 finishes.
 
The Stadium is because of the revenue Poch generated.
The next managers who came in (Jose and Conte) were here because the club grew in reputation thanks to the work Poch did.

Props to Poch... I agree.

People don't realise how lucky Levy got with Jol, Redknapp, Kane and especially Poch. They built the club for him.

To be clear; I LOL'd cos of the "Bad = Levy / Good = anyone else" meme classic..... This is why "Buck stops with Levy" is a very convenient and selective narrative......

Ultimately ; he signed the cheque on every single dud you could care to mention........ He also signed the cheque on every single individual that did good here........

Kane > McDermot > Levy....
Berbatov/Modric > Cannolli > Levy
Romero > Paratici > Levy

Can't have it both ways.
 
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