Management Next Manager Poll (poll reset 11/04/23)

[spursmalc]

I am beginning to be concerned that anyone but Poch will get a hard time on this forum and maybe wider. We need a fresh face and yes he will need more time than say Nuno. There are many names out there but we are not good enough at present and it is a big job. Personally I favour Nagelsmann and with Chelsea linked to the ex Spanish boss I cannot see why it cannot happen.

 

[dondo]

If the club wanted Poch he’d be in already. The fact he isn’t should tell us that ship has sailed.

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Not necessarily Pochettino and or ENIC might be weighing up their options and decide in the summer??
We might have a short list of 4/5 and Pochettino might be 3rd or 4th on that list?
But when the first few choices blow us out we move further down the list.
It’s all hypothetical as none of us really know what’s going on but I don’t believe it’s a 100% no on Pochettino at this point

 

[Hampshire Spur]

For me rodgers would be fabulously bland. Not great in europe either. Nagelsmann or poch for me.

 

[Rafa]

What exactly are people expecting from Poch that other managers can’t do?

Does anyone think we’ll be playing the way we did in 16/17 if he comes back?

I’d rather try something new and take a risk on someone like Ange,Gallardo or even Carrick.

 

[Get in!]

Arne Slot, give him 2-3 years and freedom to sort out the squad. Nagelsmann won’t come and Poch will end in tears imo

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I think Slot can sort out the turgid football pretty quickly. But may need a couple of years to also show results. Getting us to play nice football, however, could earn him these two years. He's definitely an interesting proposition. I watched the Feyenoord game yesterday and there was really only one direction the ball went: forward. I think the fans will definitely enjoy that after what Jose and Conte have offered the past few years.

 

[Leggo5]

As a matter of fact it is

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I'd give you a thumbs-up, but the UGA in me won't allow it. Good thing we have Spurs in common.

 

[Notabadsquad]

Strangest period for PL management that I can ever recall.

5 PL teams without a substantive in charge.

Weird.

 

[AlabamaSpur]

I'd give you a thumbs-up, but the UGA in me won't allow it. Good thing we have Spurs in common.

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UGA was built by Bama, so they are basically cousins

 

[Starks]

Yeah there was, and you do it all the time. Attribute the failures to him rather than look at the fact we've failed to achieve that under a long line of them (even ones who ALWAYS win something) and deduce that it went a lot deeper than Pochettino.

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Nope, I aim the posts at the entitled fans who believe we should be winning trophies year on year because of our "financial stature" in the game. Who think the be all and end all of football is winning trophies and forget about the actual enjoyment aspect of things.

We didn't just fight for top 4 under Poch, we got it comfortably most seasons. And we genuinely fought for a league title vs Chelsea's Conte and had a CL final. That, again, with the net spend of Stoke. Give him a genuine budget and a decent DoF and we will get over the line.

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We did and people still complained at the time. And many knew that Champions League run papered over all the cracks of the disaster which was the second half of the 18/19 season. We then proceeded to give him a sizeable transfer budget in the summer and he was sacked within 3 months.

I think a DoF and Pochettino would be smart but by all reports, he doesn't seem to want to work under one.

Because he had a paper thing squad last time & this time would be able to actually bring in a handful of players every window. Our squad was good but elevated by Poch and we never fixed the deficiences that existed as we were in austerity measures.

Lot of hindsight going on with Poch. He developed a lot of this talent, when he took over we were NOT a great team. No reason whatsoever that, given a tiny bit of time and resources, he couldn't be more successful. Our platform for success now is greater than it was when he took charge the first time.

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But we're not talking about when he took over. Of course we are in a better position now. We've had Champions League football numerous times and a brand new stadium that gives us huge revenue streams. But as we've seen, nothing is different in terms of the way we conduct our business. But our expectations now are also a lot greater and we're a lot more fickle than we were in 2014.

So we'd still just have Pochettino, a squad full of players that ultimately probably aren't good enough for what he wants, a club that won't get rid of the players it needs to get rid of, specific players that we need not being signed and a fanbase that wants more than we're ultimately capable of.

Pochettino is the cowards choice as an appointment. Levy won't want to be seen as a coward which is why I'd be surprised if he's brought back.

 

[Deuterz]

What exactly are people expecting from Poch that other managers can’t do?

Does anyone think we’ll be playing the way we did in 16/17 if he comes back?

I’d rather try something new and take a risk on someone like Ange,Gallardo or even Carrick.

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Well he's the best manager we can realistically attain, so..

Sure, why not? He took over a team viewed as much weaker on paper. We have more money. Why couldn't he get us playing that way, in time?

Carrick again, a few months of doing we in the Championship gets you a lot of admirers, especially when they're currently on course to have lost their last 3 games.

 

[skywalker68]

We did win a League Cup tie there but both teams left a lot of players out that night.

It was the one where Dele showed the crowd what the score was.

I feel Spurs generally under performed in these games under Poch; home and away.

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Mate to be honest, in a number of big games, such as top six league games or semi finals etc the team generally under performs.

 

[Deuterz]

Nope, I aim the posts at the entitled fans who believe we should be winning trophies year on year because of our "financial stature" in the game. Who think the be all and end all of football is winning trophies and forget about the actual enjoyment aspect of things.



We did and people still complained at the time. And many knew that Champions League run papered over all the cracks of the disaster which was the second half of the 18/19 season. We then proceeded to give him a sizeable transfer budget in the summer and he was sacked within 3 months.

I think a DoF and Pochettino would be smart but by all reports, he doesn't seem to want to work under one.



But we're not talking about when he took over. Of course we are in a better position now. We've had Champions League football numerous times and a brand new stadium that gives us huge revenue streams. But as we've seen, nothing is different in terms of the way we conduct our business. But our expectations now are also a lot greater and we're a lot more fickle than we were in 2014.

So we'd still just have Pochettino, a squad full of players that ultimately probably aren't good enough for what he wants, a club that won't get rid of the players it needs to get rid of, specific players that we need not being signed and a fanbase that wants more than we're ultimately capable of.

Pochettino is the cowards choice as an appointment. Levy won't want to be seen as a coward which is why I'd be surprised if he's brought back.

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Do these fans exist? Nobody I've seen on here thinks we should win trophies every year, but they do want to have won more than we have in twenty .. which is fair enough.

Fans will always complain, but the majority were happy and excited to watch us play each week. And we were perceived to be a very well ran, stable club who teams were scared to face. Poch got those transfers in 19/20 wrong, so in future ensure a DoF runs that side of things but absolutely make sure he does get players. If he genuinely would refuse to work under one then sure .. move on.

Not sure they're all that much greater. First time Poch took over, expectations were high. The Modric/Bale/VDV period under Redknapp was still fresh in the memory. Right now expectations have hit the point where fans would settle for enjoyable football.

This squad still has plenty he could work with - Bentancur, Bissouma, Richarlison, Udogie, Porro, Romero, Gil, Sarr, Skipp, Kulu & probably some others I've forgotten could all work under Poch. On top of that give him a damn decent budget, we'll soon have a competent team. We looked OK under him first season with Mason, Bentaleb, Chadli, Kaboul etc starting FFS.

Accepting you made a mistake isn't cowardly. Pochettino is the most attractive option available to us, unless Nagelsmann would consider it. He plays the football the fans want and has a connection to the club. He's the obvious choice.

 

[Tomo]

What exactly are people expecting from Poch that other managers can’t do?

Does anyone think we’ll be playing the way we did in 16/17 if he comes back?

I’d rather try something new and take a risk on someone like Ange,Gallardo or even Carrick.

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Risk vs rewards, we know what Pochettino can do, I think Slot,Ange, Gallardo, Kompany are all exciting but it is a big step up for them.

Naglesmann and Pochettino can play good attacking football, develop players and do it at high level, they are elite ‘’project managers’’.

If we are taking a risk then Slot looks a good one but for me the highest risk vs reward is Kompany. A leader and a player taught in the ways of Pepball, a style of football both attractive and dominating the Prem with City and Woolwich the Championship with Kompany and La Liga with Xavi. He could have the highest ceiling of any manager we are linked with but maybe the biggest risk.

Kompany and Slot might be the most ‘’to dare is to do’’ options. Poch and Nagelsmann are the safest options probably.

 

[Rafa]

Well he's the best manager we can realistically attain, so..

Sure, why not? He took over a team viewed as much weaker on paper. We have more money. Why couldn't he get us playing that way, in time?

Carrick again, a few months of doing we in the Championship gets you a lot of admirers, especially when they're currently on course to have lost their last 3 games.

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I’m not sure if he can replicate the success from that season. The game is constantly evolving and I don’t think it’s a guarantee that way of setting us up by essentially making us a high pressing team is enough to get that many points anymore.

Being able to adapt is the hardest thing for a manager to do. Even managers like Conte and Mourinho struggled with that as we saw first hand.

 

[Hampshire Spur]

What exactly are people expecting from Poch that other managers can’t do?

Does anyone think we’ll be playing the way we did in 16/17 if he comes back?

I’d rather try something new and take a risk on someone like Ange,Gallardo or even Carrick.

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Carrick? Sorry but no. If united come calling he will be off. Gone are the days we are a stepping stone or feeder club to united. Was a period every year fergie would sniff around our players...even that 'private' meal with poch.

 

[Rafa]

Carrick? Sorry but no. If united come calling he will be off. Gone are the days we are a stepping stone or feeder club to united. Was a period every year fergie would sniff around our players...even that 'private' meal with poch.

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I think you could say that for every manager that we get. As long as they leave the club in a good state for another top manager to take over I don’t see it as a problem.

 

[Gatsby]

I really like the idea of Mason managing us, gets it as much as us fans do. He loves the club, he knows that it’s like to play for and support Spurs, and wants to be a success.

I just think whilst there are other options, he won’t get that chance.

 

[Sir Archibald Crooks]

Poch didn't win one NLD at The Emirates.

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He played there 7 times....won 1, drew 4, lost 2. Given our record at their place over 30 years i'd say thats pretty decent.

 

[Richard Arlison]

Risk vs rewards, we know what Pochettino can do, I think Slot,Ange, Gallardo, Kompany are all exciting but it is a big step up for them.

Naglesmann and Pochettino can play good attacking football, develop players and do it at high level, they are elite ‘’project managers’’.

If we are taking a risk then Slot looks a good one but for me the highest risk vs reward is Kompany. A leader and a player taught in the ways of Pepball, a style of football both attractive and dominating the Prem with City and Woolwich the Championship with Kompany and La Liga with Xavi. He could have the highest ceiling of any manager we are linked with but maybe the biggest risk.

Kompany and Slot might be the most ‘’to dare is to do’’ options. Poch and Nagelsmann are the safest options probably.

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This is a decent summary.

Poch and Nagelsmann are more established.

Slot winning with Feyenoord makes him the highest reward to risk ratio Because he transformed them into winners very quickly. Have to wonder if he sticks around though. Especially if he leaves Feyenoord the year after winning.

Poch, Nagelsmann and Slot all good options imo

 

[Nuts]

What exactly are people expecting from Poch that other managers can’t do?

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Unity. I’m not expecting him to work miracles but we know he’s great at getting the fan base and players onboard, he understands the importance of cultivating the u21s (even if it’s just going to watch them) and he knows the club and grounds so can hit the ground running. He has the personality to get us all singing from the same hymn sheet and we need that now more than ever.