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Management Next Manager Poll (poll reset 11/04/23)

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Next Manager

  • Rodgers

    Votes: 15 3.6%
  • Potter

    Votes: 25 5.9%
  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 177 41.9%
  • Kompany

    Votes: 43 10.2%
  • Slot

    Votes: 91 21.6%
  • Postecoglou

    Votes: 74 17.5%
  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 31 7.3%
  • Xabi Alonso

    Votes: 11 2.6%
  • Stellini

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Frank

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 21 5.0%
  • Zidane

    Votes: 5 1.2%
  • Glasner

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Amorim

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • Carrick

    Votes: 9 2.1%
  • Gallardo

    Votes: 23 5.5%
  • Schmidt

    Votes: 2 0.5%

  • Total voters
    422
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I suspect that he himself has not committed to coming back yet.

Ancelotti's job at Real Madrid may come to an end this summer. And Poch is pinned as one of the main names to get it. And we know that he has Madrid as his dream club job. So as long as that is in the air he may want to keep his options open. And all the shitposting by Jesus is to keep his name out there and possibly as a way to bait Madrid into acting.

Just my two cents.
I don't understand why people are saying the Real job will be open this summer. Ancelotti has a contract until 2024. Is there any indication he will be let go by Real at the end of the season?
 
So youd take another Chelsea flop reject over a guy that took Brentford from the championship to a consistent top 10 PL club

I am scratching my head in disbelief that people STILL want this British AVB, I meant what in the actual fuck. Do you people never learn anything?
Brentford's excellent football organization took them from the Champo to comfortable PL midtable. Frank was hired because he fit what Brentford was looking for. Take him out of Brentford and it's very iffy that he will be as successful.
 
Brentford's excellent football organization took them from the Champo to comfortable PL midtable. Frank was hired because he fit what Brentford was looking for. Take him out of Brentford and it's very iffy that he will be as successful.

Brentford are very very well run. Use a lot of data and almost run a moneyball type system which allowed them to get to where they are at now. They have a great little scouting system.

I think they were always going to get to where they were due to how they did business. Frank has done a great job with them though, no disputing that.
 
I can't see how an unproven coach could have all the ingredients? That's like buying unlabled tins from the supermarket, they might be nice, they might be fermented fish.

I agree once a coach proves themselves they will be in demand, but we should be ambitious enough to go hard for those coaches before they get snapped up by the tier one clubs.
Someone who has worked in bigger leagues would have one extra data point to gauge them. But there is much more than that. Style of play, adaptability, man management, player improvement, discipline are all ingredients that can be gauged separate of which league someone has managed in. The trick is to determine how well these will translate when they make they move to your team. But that's a risk with managers who have managed in bigger leagues too.
 
How do you expect to win trophies in England with a model you want based on Ajax and Dortmund? You want to buy potential and sell before players reach their peak competing against teams full of players at their peak.
Now for the proper response...

For a start, buying potential & selling players before their peak- that's only a small part of them two clubs' philosophy and strategy, you know. But obviously it don't fit your narrative so...

And yeah, it doesn't prevent them from performing, both in their respective domestic league and in Europe. Yeah yeah yeah the PL is a different animal and it's all about money blah blah blah, so wouldn't work at Spurs. Well I disagree. First, we aren't a poor club, far from it (9th wealthiest club in the early, are we not?). Our chairman just doesn't spend, or to be more accurate, he doesn't know how to spend it wisely (the Ndombele syndrome). And money without sense, well...that's not a great recipe either, go ask Chelsea. Or closer to yours, PSG. Do City win cause they're friggin loaded? Yes but...also cause they have a proper plan, strategy, and the right people to implement it...from top to bottom.

And if you go back to my reply from the other day about Cup winners since the turn of the century, which I seem to recall you've ignored (how weird), you'll see that some teams with neither the cash nor know-how of the elite clubs have managed to win a fair few/make the final. Unless I forgot about Wigan being the Lancashire Barca.

But yeah, that's totally outlandish on my part to claim that Spurs, a financially super-wealthy club, would do much better and win trophies in England and even in Europe if only we had a proper vision and adopted best practices. What a fool I am.

You wanna know what really gets me with you? You always gotta be right, even when you're wrong...which,more often than not, you are. Desole, Monsieur. And you just refuse to concede that Levy & his cronies have made a zillion mistakes and that they're the no 1 reason we've won zilch in forever. When it's as obvious as the hole you got between your bumcheeks. You'll come out with your stats nobody's ever heard of and bend the reality so as to fit your narrative. At this point, you're as much part of the problem as Baldy & his gang are. And you don't want us true Spurs fans to give you shit about it, under the false pretense that you're just playing devil's advocate and trying to bring some balance into the debate? Give it a rest, lad
 
Now for the proper response...

For a start, buying potential & selling players before their peak- that's only a small part of them two clubs' philosophy and strategy, you know. But obviously it don't fit your narrative so...

And yeah, it doesn't prevent them from performing, both in their respective domestic league and in Europe. Yeah yeah yeah the PL is a different animal and it's all about money blah blah blah, so wouldn't work at Spurs. Well I disagree. First, we aren't a poor club, far from it (9th wealthiest club in the early, are we not?). Our chairman just doesn't spend, or to be more accurate, he doesn't know how to spend it wisely (the Ndombele syndrome). And money without sense, well...that's not a great recipe either, go ask Chelsea. Or closer to yours, PSG. Do City win cause they're friggin loaded? Yes but...also cause they have a proper plan, strategy, and the right people to implement it...from top to bottom.

And if you go back to my reply from the other day about Cup winners since the turn of the century, which I seem to recall you've ignored (how weird), you'll see that some teams with neither the cash nor know-how of the elite clubs have managed to win a fair few/make the final. Unless I forgot about Wigan being the Lancashire Barca.

But yeah, that's totally outlandish on my part to claim that Spurs, a financially super-wealthy club, would do much better and win trophies in England and even in Europe if only we had a proper vision and adopted best practices. What a fool I am.

You wanna know what really gets me with you? You always gotta be right, even when you're wrong...which,more often than not, you are. Desole, Monsieur. And you just refuse to concede that Levy & his cronies have made a zillion mistakes and that they're the no 1 reason we've won zilch in forever. When it's as obvious as the hole you got between your bumcheeks. You'll come out with your stats nobody's ever heard of and bend the reality so as to fit your narrative. At this point, you're as much part of the problem as Baldy & his gang are. And you don't want us true Spurs fans to give you shit about it, under the false pretense that you're just playing devil's advocate and trying to bring some balance into the debate? Give it a rest, lad

Living in dreamland if you think that strategy would work and guarantee us trophies, what you're proposing is for us to be a Brighton, or to maybe backup your point further a Leicester but you're looking at the odd cup run and even then you need pure luck to even win something, despite our pathetic records in the cups we are a club starved of trophies with a rich history - we should be aiming to improve on that not to give up on it.

As a top 6 club we just need to accept who we are, we are just simply not in a position to sell our best players because we will be more often than not strengthening our rivals - one of the key reasons as to why Ajax and Dortmund are able to run their business like that is that they sell abroad for the most part (I know Dortmund have sold to Bayern but they are happy to be their cucks) Now unless you're happy to be Chelsea's or City's cuck year in year out that's fine but that screams serious lack of ambition to me

Prem is just a different beast to any league, you can't rest because there's so much fucking competition unlike the others, our strategy at the moment is messed up but believe me what you're proposing isn't the way to go.
 
I don't understand why people are saying the Real job will be open this summer. Ancelotti has a contract until 2024. Is there any indication he will be let go by Real at the end of the season?
There's been a lot of talk out of Brasil, including from Brazilian players like Ederson, that Carlo is being courted heavily by the Brazilian FA to take over as their manager in the summer. And before the Copa el Classico that Real were okay with him leaving if he wished to.
 
But the potential is there to create a European pedigree.
With us it's just flat, the board just cares about top 4.
It’s a fucking ridiculous comparison.

PSG’s commercial revenue is more than the other 19 Ligue 1 teams combined. They will always qualify for the UCL. The best players in France (and going to France) will always end up at PSG.

We are 200m behind the richest teams in our league.
 
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