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Management Next Manager Poll (poll reset 11/04/23)

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Next Manager

  • Rodgers

    Votes: 15 3.6%
  • Potter

    Votes: 25 5.9%
  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 177 41.9%
  • Kompany

    Votes: 43 10.2%
  • Slot

    Votes: 91 21.6%
  • Postecoglou

    Votes: 74 17.5%
  • De Zerbi

    Votes: 31 7.3%
  • Xabi Alonso

    Votes: 11 2.6%
  • Stellini

    Votes: 4 0.9%
  • Frank

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 21 5.0%
  • Zidane

    Votes: 5 1.2%
  • Glasner

    Votes: 3 0.7%
  • Amorim

    Votes: 10 2.4%
  • Carrick

    Votes: 9 2.1%
  • Gallardo

    Votes: 23 5.5%
  • Schmidt

    Votes: 2 0.5%

  • Total voters
    422
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Now for the proper response...

For a start, buying potential & selling players before their peak- that's only a small part of them two clubs' philosophy and strategy, you know. But obviously it don't fit your narrative so...

And yeah, it doesn't prevent them from performing, both in their respective domestic league and in Europe. Yeah yeah yeah the PL is a different animal and it's all about money blah blah blah, so wouldn't work at Spurs. Well I disagree. First, we aren't a poor club, far from it (9th wealthiest club in the early, are we not?). Our chairman just doesn't spend, or to be more accurate, he doesn't know how to spend it wisely (the Ndombele syndrome). And money without sense, well...that's not a great recipe either, go ask Chelsea. Or closer to yours, PSG. Do City win cause they're friggin loaded? Yes but...also cause they have a proper plan, strategy, and the right people to implement it...from top to bottom.

And if you go back to my reply from the other day about Cup winners since the turn of the century, which I seem to recall you've ignored (how weird), you'll see that some teams with neither the cash nor know-how of the elite clubs have managed to win a fair few/make the final. Unless I forgot about Wigan being the Lancashire Barca.

But yeah, that's totally outlandish on my part to claim that Spurs, a financially super-wealthy club, would do much better and win trophies in England and even in Europe if only we had a proper vision and adopted best practices. What a fool I am.

You wanna know what really gets me with you? You always gotta be right, even when you're wrong...which,more often than not, you are. Desole, Monsieur. And you just refuse to concede that Levy & his cronies have made a zillion mistakes and that they're the no 1 reason we've won zilch in forever. When it's as obvious as the hole you got between your bumcheeks. You'll come out with your stats nobody's ever heard of and bend the reality so as to fit your narrative. At this point, you're as much part of the problem as Baldy & his gang are. And you don't want us true Spurs fans to give you shit about it, under the false pretense that you're just playing devil's advocate and trying to bring some balance into the debate? Give it a rest, lad
I’m not always right and unlike you I don’t believe it’s possible to speak definitively. I am, however, led by reason and I am interested in context and that’s what I lead with. Facts and evidence matter.

People use the “9th richest club” stat to suggest we should be winning trophies in England. But we are the 5th richest club in England. And for most of ENIC’s ownership we’ve been the 6th richest club. We’re not competing for domestic trophies against teams in Germany or Spain who have less money - we’re competing against the very richest clubs in the world.

37 out of 40 trophies in the past decade have been won by teams with more resources than us.

The fact you can’t acknowledge that overwhelming statistic shows your bias.

The one criticism I would agree with you on is the Europa league and Conference league where we should have done better when we’ve been involved. We’ve underperformed in those competitions (we’ve often underperformed in domestic cups too when you look at who has knocked us out).

I have clearly stated the lack of a coherent and appropriate football strategy is a strong and valid critique of Levy. We agree on that.

But the FACTS are that we have overperformed relative to your resources in 10 out of the past 12 seasons. That is staggering overachievement. So while we are both frustrated, the results have been better than we should expect most seasons.

To focus on the 3 times in the past decade when a team with less resources has won a trophy shows how ridiculous your argument is.

A team with less resources than us has never won the league cup in the past decade.
A team with less resources than us has won the FA cup twice in the past decade.
A team with less resources than us had won the league once in the past decade.

The fact this happens so infrequently is all the evidence you need for how tough it is and how far the odds are stacked against us. The league win by Leicester was incredible at the time and everyone agreed it was a historically improbable event.

It’s a shame we haven’t had the luck needed to win a trophy over the past decade… and it’s true that two other teams have had that luck… but on average we have performed significantly better than both of those teams over the past decade. We just haven’t had that bit of luck needed.
 
I’m not always right and unlike you I don’t believe it’s possible to speak definitively. I am, however, led by reason and I am interested in context and that’s what I lead with. Facts and evidence matter.

People use the “9th richest club” stat to suggest we should be winning trophies in England. But we are the 5th richest club in England. And for most of ENIC’s ownership we’ve been the 6th richest club. We’re not competing for domestic trophies against teams in Germany or Spain who have less money - we’re competing against the very richest clubs in the world.

37 out of 40 trophies in the past decade have been won by teams with more resources than us.

The fact you can’t acknowledge that overwhelming statistic shows your bias.

The one criticism I would agree with you on is the Europa league and Conference league where we should have done better when we’ve been involved. We’ve underperformed in those competitions (we’ve often underperformed in domestic cups too when you look at who has knocked us out).

I have clearly stated the lack of a coherent and appropriate football strategy is a strong and valid critique of Levy. We agree on that.

But the FACTS are that we have overperformed relative to your resources in 10 out of the past 12 seasons. That is staggering overachievement. So while we are both frustrated, the results have been better than we should expect most seasons.

To focus on the 3 times in the past decade when a team with less resources has won a trophy shows how ridiculous your argument is.

A team with less resources than us has never won the league cup in the past decade.
A team with less resources than us has won the FA cup twice in the past decade.
A team with less resources than us had won the league once in the past decade.

The fact this happens so infrequently is all the evidence you need for how tough it is and how far the odds are stacked against us. The league win by Leicester was incredible at the time and everyone agreed it was a historically improbable event.

It’s a shame we haven’t had the luck needed to win a trophy over the past decade… and it’s true that two other teams have had that luck… but on average we have performed significantly better than both of those teams over the past decade. We just haven’t had that bit of luck needed.
bUt WiGaN!!
 
Can managers not sign a precontract agreement, much as players in the last few months of their contract can do?
You’d think so and if that was the case why haven’t we heard anything on trying to look down poch or JN. I reckon it’s that cunt fraud and the board who don’t want poch not sure if they have reached out to JN.
Surely they could just go to either promise them £15M like they paid those two lazy ficking coaches who basically coached nothing or instilled any winning mentality in 4 years. Give them the reins on all first team matter. Job done.
Too many cooks now with Munn and DOF for manager to have input in how the football side is run .
 
Only two of us would like to welcome back Carrick?? 🤯

A young, so far impressive coach who could build a new (and much needed)team/squad.

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Or could be sacked in 10 games
 
Someone who has worked in bigger leagues would have one extra data point to gauge them. But there is much more than that. Style of play, adaptability, man management, player improvement, discipline are all ingredients that can be gauged separate of which league someone has managed in. The trick is to determine how well these will translate when they make they move to your team. But that's a risk with managers who have managed in bigger leagues too.
It's not just working in a bigger league than Holland. Ten Hag had only worked in Holland, but unlike Slot, he'd been doing it for a sustained period of time, with a decent amount of success in the Europa and CL as well.
Compare that with the previous Dutchman to have a decent record in Holland to come to England.... Frank De Boer was doing well with Ajax for 5 years then completely failed at Palace, effectively ending his career.
 
It’s the sun so probably bullshit but thoughts if this happened?



Sceptical it’s true, but we’ve tried everything else, so why not. He left Anderlecht apparently because the owners wouldn’t back, him so if Levy thinks getting a young manager in, so he can control him, is the idea then I think he will be sorely mistaken.

I would be excited to see what he could do but it is obviously a big risk.
 
It’s the sun so probably bullshit but thoughts if this happened?



To save people the click, it’s actually quite a broad article and kompany is just one of the targets. It’s probably a filler piece but who knows.

SunSport told you last month the Manchester City legend was a surprise name on Levy’s shortlist.

But Spurs chiefs have received glowing reports after a stunning season saw the Clarets promoted in record time.

And Kompany is increasingly seen as the manager who can give the club a new dimension.

Spurs have watched how Mikel Arteta has transformed bitter rivals Woolwich into Premier League title contenders having spent three years working as Pep Guardiola’s No 2 at City.
Kompany spent the same amount of time as captain under Guardiola before becoming Anderlecht manager in 2019.

He won two of his four Premier League crowns with Guardiola — who has tipped him as a future Etihad boss.

Spurs are also considering Julian Nagelsmann, Luis Enrique, Brendan Rodgers, Arne Slot and their former chief Mauricio Pochettino.

But, crucially for Levy, Kompany made Burnley the Championship’s most entertaining side after putting almost a whole new squad together.

And Kompany is believed to be ready to listen if Spurs make a move as he fears the Clarets may not have the funds to tackle the Prem.

Levy wants to get a new boss lined up quickly with Harry Kane’s future again in doubt and the club facing a battle to finish in the top four.

They are three points behind Newcastle and Manchester United but have played a game more.

Conte was sacked in March after weeks of uncertainty.

The final straw came when the Italian boss, 53, launched an astonishing attack on his ‘selfish’ Spurs flops after the 3-3 draw at Southampton.

His assistant Cristian Stellini has become the acting head coach at Tottenham for the remainder of the season.

Former Premier League midfielder Ryan Mason is the Italian's assistant head coach as the pair look to rejuvenate Spurs and finish in this season's Champions League spots.
 
He sticks with Burnley and does a decent job for two years and the city job is his… why screw that and your career up? This lad is too clever to make that mistake
Why try and follow Guardiola? It will be like trying to follow Ferguson, you will never meet the expectations they set. I think if he's clever he swerves that place until 2 or 3 managers have passed through and the standards have dropped. Plus they have the FFP allegations against them.
 
I'll say it again. Because once (ONCE ffs!) we bungled the manager appointment, it is now the norm?

Of course I can see a bunch of you hoping this ends up being the case at the detriment of the team, just to say "I told you so," but unfortunately for you it won't.
Well I hope you are right because I want the team to succeed.
But clearly you still haven't twigged Levy's game which is on you.
 
Why try and follow Guardiola? It will be like trying to follow Ferguson, you will never meet the expectations they set. I think if he's clever he swerves that place until 2 or 3 managers have passed through and the standards have dropped. Plus they have the FFP allegations against them.
He won't meet the expectations of the board with us either and he will be continuously frustrated in the transfer market too.
 
He won't meet the expectations of the board with us either and he will be continuously frustrated in the transfer market too.
Probably. But its a long career as a manager and getting your dream job too early can be a bit of a poisoned chalice as Naglesmann proved. Kompany is likely confident he can improve us from our current mess and he's probably right. Glass ceiling or not. He wouldnt be my first choice but i think it would be intetesting and could well work upto a point.
 
Probably. But its a long career as a manager and getting your dream job too early can be a bit of a poisoned chalice as Naglesmann proved. Kompany is likely confident he can improve us from our current mess and he's probably right. Glass ceiling or not. He wouldnt be my first choice but i think it would be intetesting and could well work upto a point.
I don't think there is one manager out there that would think they are confident that they could get us into the top 4, that's what improvement would mean. We also got 7 players out on loan mostly surplus to requirements that he has to sort out.
 
I don't think there is one manager out there that would think they are confident that they could get us into the top 4, that's what improvement would mean. We also got 7 players out on loan mostly surplus to requirements that he has to sort out.

There are lots of candidates though, which makes it a bit different from the Nuno summer. Plus despite what a lot of fans think it is a great job for someone to make a name for themselves as Poch showed. And that was when the club was seriously hampered by the stadium build. Any promising young manager worth his salt has to see it as a huge opportunity for themselves. I bet there has been a lot of interest from people.
 
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