And people crying about how he was making us play negative football. His last 8 games we were scoring more than 2 goals per game. It genuinely looked like he had abandoned the defensive approach and went for it. But somehow...in the tiny brain of a creepy bald man...sacking a manager before a cup final was a great idea.
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If we’d won the cup, he’d have had to pay him completely out of his contract.
Being *really* cynical, Levy might even have done it for financial rather than footballing reasons.
The only reason Levy sacked Jose before a cup final, was in fear of paying him off if he won it. Levy cares more about saving pennies than he does the club winning trophies. That’s all you need to know about our owners and chairman. A paradise bald cunt!!! #levyout #enicout #nunoout … reset the whole fucking club
we had just been smashed 3-0 by City a few weeks earlier, we were on a terrible run of form playing terrible football and had also just been knocked out of europe having bottled a 2-0 lead vs Dinamo Zagreb...
Jesus a bit of fucking time passes and people forget their heads.
Nuno isn't the answer but Jose was a fucking poison.
FFS.
Also if we had won with Mason, then levy can show off how much of a genius he is with his masterstroke. Turns out it wasnt, hes just a dumb cunt under whose ownership we've won 1 cup in over 20 years.If we’d won the cup, he’d have had to pay him completely out of his contract.
Being *really* cynical, Levy might even have done it for financial rather than footballing reasons.
You sure?
Nowhere because Jose is done at the top level and was already publicly attempting to humiliate half the squad, as he's prone to do as soon as things start to go badly. And we were still massive underdogs for the league cup regardless of Jose, we were dreadful for ages both in the league and cups. The last time we had played City we got mauled. A side from Croatia had recently torn us to shreds, why do people think Jose was gonna switch it on for a final? Because of his past record with much better teams? The issue was hiring a toxic manager who at his last two clubs had Chelsea bottom half with the squad despising him, and did the same with the United team, to the extent numerous United players still hate the man.
And we need to sack his more likable but more mediocre acolyte too. Because it's a similar brand of shit on a stick football except slightly more confused because Nuno is scared to go full Jose. Feck off these boring, outdated managers with their long-ball, low-block garbage for good, please.
I'm still Nuno in just about, because I think sacking a manager six games in isn't credible. Increasingly convinced he isn't the answer.
That’s all true but it doesn’t alter the fact that we had a much better chance of winning the trophy with an experienced manager like Jose rather than a complete novice like Mason
Levy was going to fire Jose anyway but would probably have had to pay out a few bonuses if we had won it with Jose so fired him days before a cup final
Thus proving he doesn’t give a shit whether we win trophies or not!
Appointing Jose in the first place + sacking Poch were far, far worse decisions. He was never remotely right for the club, and his methods/man management styles are outdated. Levy got sucked in with the glamour and prestige rather than thinking what a colossal shift would be needed to go from a Poch style of play to Joseball.
There's a reason he ended up at us. No top club in world football would touch Jose with a bargepole these days. He's ran off to the only place he still has something of a reputation left, and even there he's taken over a club in the same garbage competition we're in, who have been below mediocre for years.
I actually think by the time Poch got sacked it was right to give him the boot, however painful it might have been, as the fire had simply burned out.
The real mistake was not backing Poch a year to 18 months prior to this.
I don't know if Potter would come until next summer, but if the club is serious, actually serious, about getting him then it could be done.
You list a lot of good reasons why and I don't believe any of the tripe Law earlier in the week. Spurs are still one of the premier jobs in Europe and I don't think Potter wants to go abroad.
I have heard it reported (alleged) we did approach Potter at quite an early stage of our managerial search in the summer and were knocked back. Apparently he felt if he failed and was sacked it would cock his career up. Does that say more about Graham Potter or Daniel Levy?
Not giving the best coach we'd had in a long, long term till the end of the season was a worse decision than hiring or firing Jose though. It's very possible the fire had gone but if you're going to give anyone a bit of time to fix it, it's Poch.
No idea why anybody could imagine Jose deserved time, patience or trust. The man is one of the most dislikeable people in the entire football world, and he's not even successful to counteract that anymore. It was classic Levy getting drawn in by him.
That's from the Matt Law report, which is why I don't buy it.
There was a ton of reporting that the club was seriously looking at Ten Hag, Potter, Rangnick, Rodgers and a few others after Nagelsmann but before the Conte/Poch mess and just didn't move aggressively on any of them.
In any case, it would have been better to take a lesser known quantity with a better footballing philosophy than go with someone and then ask him to change everything he's ever done.
I honestly think Poch was emotionally broken after the CL final - Poch is the best Spurs manager of my own lifetime but I am almost certain he would not have turned it around that season.
Appointing Jose was a different call entirely and a drastic change in tack. Suffice to say Levy got that one wrong - and it looks like it might be two wrong appointments on the bounce. Fingers crossed I am wrong, I want Nuno to do well, but it doesn't look a good fit.
Completely agree - and it's usually the 'builders' rather than the 'names' who have done well here. But if it is true that Potter rejected us what can you do apart from move on to other targets?
We watched that experienced manager get knocked out of the FA cup after we couldn't even get a grip in the game for 5 minutes. And then we later watched him completely lost as a Croatian side played us off the park and he was powerless to do a thing. And that was in a competition which was by far our best shot of getting CL football at that point.
There's no magic Jose touch in a final. We would've turned up with a low block and long balled it to Kane/Son. That same tactic saw us torn apart by City in the league not long before, and beaten by pretty much every side who had worked out our tactics a long time ago.
He didn't deserve the opportunity to take charge of that final, and I'm glad we robbed him of it. He's a disgusting individual who should never have been near this football club.
Yeah of course it had absolutely nothing to do with the shit performances and Mourinho constantly slating the club in the press...
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