Absolutely disgraceful
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Management Nuno out
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I agree if that is what really happened/does happen. It would probably be water under the bridge if the managerial search hadn't been a shit show. I like Potter but it's not like there aren't other managers that could come in and do a job here.
In some weird fantasy world that exists only in my head, Levy and Paratici realize just how much they fucked up, the value of the club is tanking, the sponsorship deals are drying up, and Levy just plops down the cash to get Conte on board to get things back on track. He did it with Mourinho, why not do it on someone that just won the league with Inter? The club and stadium really need the exposure of winning football to maximize their value.
In this reality, no.
Ironically we'd start playing 3 at the back immediately, though.
Point being we ended up with our 6th choice so I’m not sure if people are expecting Klopp to come running or they are trying to convince themselves that they will give Potter any more than 3 defeats and 6 weeks either…..
Our fans probably are the reason for ten years of transition. I’m guilty of it too, from Arry, to AVB to Poch, to Jose, always some section calling for their heads.
Sack Nuno, and enjoy another nothing period for two years.
The manager isn’t the problem…..we are three managers since SINCE Poch lost the plot.
It’s Levy and certain players.
Then we watched a complete novice take charge days before a cup final and was hopelessly out of his depth against a City side who didn’t turn up and were there for the taking
I think people are confusing the issue of sacking Jose with when he did actually get sacked
Nuno should have taken a year off, to be honest.
"Hire a coach who implements pattern of play" challenge for Levy and Paratici.This isn't good.
Also I don't like that it's been leaked but one problem at a time.
Nuno Santo described as 'uncommunicative to point of being distant'
Tottenham boss Nuno Espirito Santo has taken another kicking from inside the dressing room. Apparently there are "no patterns of play".www.football365.com
Nuno described as ‘uncommunicative to point of being distant’
In the latest story leaked from inside the training ground, Tottenham boss Nuno Espirito Santo is described as ‘uncommunicative to the point of being distant’ without any real ‘patterns of play’.
After similar character assassinations in the tabloids, The Athletic provide a view from inside the club that does not paint Santo in a flattering light.
‘Nuno is an intelligent and thoughtful man, but he is not exactly loquacious, as he sometimes shows in his curt responses in press conferences.
‘But Nuno is not especially chatty with his players either, certainly compared to his more charismatic, outgoing predecessors. There is no small talk with players, and no real dialogue away from the training pitch.’
You might wonder why footballers need ‘small talk’ but this is clearly a problem when you follow Mauricio Pochettino and Jose Mourinho, who both had big personalities.
It is said that Santo ‘is uncommunicative to the point of being distant’, which might well translate to an issue with giving tactical instructions.
Certainly, their performance in the 3-1 defeat to Woolwich suggested that the players had no idea of their instructions.
The Tottenham boss said cryptically after the game: “I won’t name individuals who didn’t play the game plan right, but the game plan was not right according to the players who were on the pitch.”
Now an unnamed source has told The Athletic: “Nobody is quite sure what is what. It’s unclear how we’re playing. There are no patterns of play.”
So frustrating to have a complete lack of identity on the ball.
when we pay him off he can have a yearout
Def problems behind the scenes given numbers of leaks this early in the season. Someone isn't happy.
It sounds like he a have a very polite ‘fuck off’ as a response and created a BS justification
He could have still won a cup final though
I think people are hopeful that this disaster might panic Levy and finally he will actually give a manager backing. I don't believe it either, but I know for certain Nuno isn't the man (seriously, I've never had less faith in a manager being successful at a club) so I don't see the point in him staying. I can see the argument for keeping him on for a bit while we work out who we get, sure. But back him in the market or give him real time? God no.
And Levy's the reason for that transition. Didn't back Pochettino when he needed to, sacked him, hired a manager with an entirely different style of play & approach who is famous for not lasting long at teams, and then sacked him, seemingly wanted an attacking approach, realised a fancy new DoF was available, switched approach, went for mediocre dull man. Utter chaos. No long term plan for what is needed. Clown.
And I agree the manager isn't the core problem, but you can believe that but still think Nuno is a dead man walking who has close to zero chance of making it work.
Mason was an issue. Levy should've had a more experienced caretaker lined up.
Sacking Jose wasn't the issue. And I'm really not bothered that it was before a league cup final. Who on here had any faith we'd do anything in that final when we had Jose? All I remember is every Spurs fan predicting he'd get sacked after losing it.
The man didn't deserve the opportunity to win the final. He'd fully turned on the players, was badmouthing the club whenever he could, the football was dreadful and results an embarrassment.
Are you for real?
Do you really believe that if United went for Tuchel/Poch/Conte/Zidane over the last 2 years they wouldn’t have gotten them in in a week?
The reason Ole is still at United is because old red nose Ferguson still holds absolutely massive decision making power at that club and you know damn well he would have played a huge part in giving him that new contract. Ole is one of his boys.
You’re exaggerating but the point I’m making is that for me and a lot of other fans winning a trophy was important
You’re ‘not bothered’
Your words so I wonder if you are a real fan of the club or Poch
I’m not arguing that Jose had to go but not days before a cup final
You seem to be arguing that we sacked Jose to spite him saying that you didn’t want him to have the opportunity to win trophy
What about the players who might have wanted to win it and us fans?
By sacking Jose when he did Levy ensured that we wouldn’t win it but you’re ‘not bothered’ implying that winning such a trophy is irrelevant?
Tell that to Pep as he certainly enjoyed winning it and it installs a winning philosophy which we don’t have and haven’t had for a long time!
Agreed but didn’t he recommend Moyes appointment?
Who never really had a chance following Fergie
My firm belief is we had zero chance of winning that trophy with or without Mourinho, so I'm mostly indifferent as to whether he was sacked before or after it. You obviously feel we had a good chance with him, I disagree. That's all just down to an opinion of the man and his ability at this point. That's the reason why I'm not bothered, because any small amount of faith I had in Jose when he was appointed had been entirely eroded by the time he was sacked.
I would like to have won the trophy, yes. But it would've been tainted for me by Jose feeling he came away a success because he won a minor trophy, meanwhile we'd been humiliated in every other competition and he was doing his usual pantomime villain impression.
Personally I believe Levy saw how well United did after Jose was sacked, and held some hope the relief some of our players would feel from him going would lead to a reaction. I don't know what plan/flash of tactical brilliance Jose would have come up with to win us the cup, that he couldn't have come up with against far lesser teams, in more important competitions.
Everyone's hopes for that final if we kept Jose seem to be entirely based on a rather shaky belief that he had one more ace in his sleeve despite showing everyone he didn't for a long time. May he have done better than Mason? Possibly. Does that mean we would have won? No.
Good points.
I’m just happy to be naive believe it will come good.
I just don’t understand how we can have so many new players, so many players leave, so many managers but nothing has changed since the 11 month diamond period nearly three years ago.
For me the lots of mostly blamed players aren’t here here. Eriksen, Sissoko, Toby, Jan, Rose all gone.
Winks not featuring, Davies out.
Poch gone, Jose gone, Mason gone.
The common denominators are getting fewer and fewer.
Levy, Kane, Dele, Dier Sanchez.
Three of those players were doing alright until the 4th returned.
No manager will ever have it easy under Levy nor with a player who’s bigger than the club and isn’t under any circumstances allowed to see a bench no matter how shit he plays or how many transfer requests he makes in The Sun
I didn’t say that we had a. ‘Good’ chance of winning with Jose but a much better chance than with Mason so Levy should have waited until after the final
There was a short period in the second half when City had ran out of ideas and we started to get some possession so an attack minded substitution might have turned things so what Mason do?
He brought on Sissoko
Nuff said!
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