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Management Poch out?
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I suppose the biggest benefit of Poch staying will be that all of you indignant ITK football experts will all self combust and never be seen again.
In my dreams
Me - I'll just go on supporting my favourite club and enjoy the good stuff and groan at the bad stuff, and not let any of it kill my passion for the club.
Let's hope that the best way forward, whatever that is, is discovered pretty feckin quickly.
Some of this anger and negativity is pretty soul destroying though, and has turned this place into somewhere to avoid at times.
In my dreams
Me - I'll just go on supporting my favourite club and enjoy the good stuff and groan at the bad stuff, and not let any of it kill my passion for the club.
Let's hope that the best way forward, whatever that is, is discovered pretty feckin quickly.
Some of this anger and negativity is pretty soul destroying though, and has turned this place into somewhere to avoid at times.
Completely agree. Sometimes reading some of the posts is like watching people pick scabs off healing wounds. Same arguments, same feuds and same topics. Let's hope something changes soon if only to see some different thread titles in here that bring us some new, fresh and lively debates.
Thoughtful quote about 'change'.....
We can't be afraid of change. You may feel very secure in the pond that you are in, but if you never venture out of it, you will never know that there is such a thing as an ocean, a sea. Holding onto something that is good for you now, may be the very reason why you don't have something better.
And as I'm in philosophical mood here's one more for all those that think things are bad but we should stick with Poch to sort it out....
"Never look for happiness in the same place that you lost it".
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I think that if there is one thing that seems to be a consistent "thing" in football it is that extended success is usually accompanied by the long term tenure of a good manager. And that of all clubs - we have been supporting a club with a revolving door on the managers office that has generated the kind of breeze that blows away hopes and dreams. One of our best periods was under our longest serving manager and all of our most successful have been under 3 of the longer serving ones.
In the present we have built a generational psyche of instant gratification and short term tolerance that comes with the rapid development and evolution of technology, but some thing take time to fully grow to maturity.Judging the qualities of a good football manager by a collection of ignorant people who neither have the skills, talent or knowledge to build a successful under 11s team makes no sense to me at all.
The one thing that has left Spurs as a "nearly" team is its constant sacking of managers - and having had the "benefit" of watching the teams built and displayed by 29 managerial changes in 50 years I'd say that the best football has been generated by the current one. My personal preference is to keep him and trust him to manage the change to keep the standards as high as he has reached up to now, rather than panic and drag in a lesser management team to flush out the dead wood and try to revive what's left
Because whatever the pitchfork a flaming torch brigade will try to tell you, the ageing, disinterested, overambitious and declining players that we have at the moment are a problem that nobody of any perspicacity and football acumen will want to inherit.
And the only thing that will cure it quickly is a shit load of money and a settled, talented and trustworthy management and coaching structure like the one we have in place.
Sadly we need an oligarch or petrochemical sheik to do it with the speed that will keep our supporters with the attention span of a house fly happy.
In the present we have built a generational psyche of instant gratification and short term tolerance that comes with the rapid development and evolution of technology, but some thing take time to fully grow to maturity.Judging the qualities of a good football manager by a collection of ignorant people who neither have the skills, talent or knowledge to build a successful under 11s team makes no sense to me at all.
The one thing that has left Spurs as a "nearly" team is its constant sacking of managers - and having had the "benefit" of watching the teams built and displayed by 29 managerial changes in 50 years I'd say that the best football has been generated by the current one. My personal preference is to keep him and trust him to manage the change to keep the standards as high as he has reached up to now, rather than panic and drag in a lesser management team to flush out the dead wood and try to revive what's left
Because whatever the pitchfork a flaming torch brigade will try to tell you, the ageing, disinterested, overambitious and declining players that we have at the moment are a problem that nobody of any perspicacity and football acumen will want to inherit.
And the only thing that will cure it quickly is a shit load of money and a settled, talented and trustworthy management and coaching structure like the one we have in place.
Sadly we need an oligarch or petrochemical sheik to do it with the speed that will keep our supporters with the attention span of a house fly happy.
And thats the biggest benefit to keeping a manager you want to stay?
Doesn’t say much about his ability to be honest.
You’re such a good fan, maybe you can follow him back to Espanyol.
You talk of ageing, declining footballers that nobody would want to inherit as if Poch had no direct involvement in that situation developing. Is that the secret to longevity as a club manager now ?. Create and allow a squad to disintegrate to such a level that nobody else would want it to ensure your tenure ?.
Sad times indeed. I don't have the attention span of a house fly but I do have the life span of a human being and would like to see this team back where it belongs before that ends.
Right, and when Rose, Verts, Toby et al go to their next clubs they're not going to give a season or 2 before they dont get picked any more?
I have never said Poch is perfect and neither do I believe him to be the best or irreplaceable. I do believe hes the best we can afford and I also believe that he has the best knowledge of our club, its staff, its facilities and most of all its chairman.
Change from that would be more pain than the cure it may bring.
And for the absence of doubt the housefly reference wasnt aimed at you. I dont agree with your opinion to get rid of him, but at least you are capable of defending and expressing it without rancor and abuse, which makes a pleasant change round these parts.
I'm sorry, I'm under an abusive restraining order not to have conversations with you.
*has conversation with me*
I thank you for that...
aulinhobored:I do believe that if poch leaves there will be an upturn in fortune because he is part of the problem that has continued for some time, however levy won't pay him off so we are stuck with the situation for some time.
19 years....lifelong...explains a lot
Hmmm. Club chairman that fled the country after conviction for being a cunt, and embittered player trying to force move via the press. Both very reliable witnesses
I was just saying cos he called you a MASSIVE cunt fella....... not taking sides.
The main problem I have with the "Poch in" crowd is that he may well not want to stay.
You cannot take any coach of any clubs comments about "I want to stay" seriously. They could desperately want to leave but they won't resign, they just wait for the sack and take the dough. That is football now and no one is above it.
(Obviously if you're on fuck all then there's no pay off to wait for.
You cannot take any coach of any clubs comments about "I want to stay" seriously. They could desperately want to leave but they won't resign, they just wait for the sack and take the dough. That is football now and no one is above it.
(Obviously if you're on fuck all then there's no pay off to wait for.
Where is that? In the top 4?
Or maybe he does, I believe he does, but I'm biased. I think Levy believe he does too.