Is that a football shirt or is he a new Avenger??Maybe he can bring Weghorst with him...
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Management Poll: Who do you want most as our next manager?
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You have a strange definition of peaking.
I think the Jose experiment will have him reverting to type even more so. Unless he surprises us all and gets a DoF or brings in Rangnick as a manager and advisor, I can't see him giving up his DoF-esque 'duties'.
As i said elsewhere, i think the control freak in him can't.
Isn't there rumblings about him wanting to bring in a DOF?
Historically he hasn't had issues with having one before if the manager wants one.
Or we could get a new head scout to take that duty off of Hitchen. I'm sure that Hitchen is a decent enough scout, but he is obviously in over his head when it comes to the overarching duties of being head scout/technical director.
Good job Sol Campbell wasn’t there too or you’d have had a difficult choice.
Ok, maybe not.
Then we can have a Balsenoro and Qanon fan in the squad. Sure to gel and come up with some swell theories on vaccines, women's rights, and immigrantsMaybe he can bring Weghorst with him...
I could have written this post, TBH. However, I was still "in" until Zagreb, should have definitely gone then.
He’s probably what we deserve.
He ticks a lot of the boxes that should make him a big success at Spurs.
1. Goals scored:
His Brighton team create more chances that anyone else other than the likes of City. That they don't score from those chances is down to the strikers they have and the budget that he's had to work to. Bloom won't push the boat out for that, up to a certain percentage of turnover and no more - sound familiar?
Can you imagine what he'd do at Spurs if we created those chances for us but with Kane and Son to finish them off? And not Welbeck?
They've lost a lot of games this season. But: only 3 by more than one goal (Chavs, City, Leicester). 2 of those at the start. Which means they probably wouldn't have lost many more than that. Looks like they've competed in every game this season barring 3.
The A23 Derby (groan) games v Palace were a case in point. Brighton created I think 50 chances in those games, scored one goal. Got one point.
2. Goals against:
Barring the first few matches (see above), he's got the defence sorted. Which is more than we've done, even with 2/3rds of a season of bus-parking.
3. Youth:
One of the selling points for him going to Brighton was their Academy. I'd bet ours is WAY better than Brighton's. Just look at the amount of International caps we've produced in the past 7-8 years. Even our REJECTS end up playing for their countries.
In 2 years our Under-18's will be pushing for first-team or loans. They are looking like they could be the best Academy group we've ever had. We need someone who will do the right thing here.
4. Man Management:
Got a degree in Leadership and Emotional Intelligence. Which means he at least KNOWS how to motivate all sorts. Which is probably the most important skill that a manager can have in the PL. The others I'd say are selecting the team, choosing the tactics, and buying well. If you have a decent coach and scouts you're more than half way with those 3.
I've never seen him throw a player under the bus after a defeat, nor would I expect it.
5. PL Experience.
6. Teams play good, attractive football which would fill the stadium.
NB. Nice to have:
- he comes across well in interview. No toys thrown out of prams;
- hasn't failed anywhere. Did an outstanding job in Sweden, a good job at Swans with all his best players sold from underneath him (and no complaints in the press), and he's a striker short of a very good job at Brighton.
Seems to be popular with players and fans wherever he goes.
Having just move to Brighton, I get a bit of low down on him from mates who support them. Often they're Spurs who have them as a 2nd local team.
I don't think Levy will go for him, he doesn't have CL experience. Not a big enough name to get buyers interested and the value of the club up.
Football is a pretty simple game. Some of the things he's good at, we're missing. What he's missing, we've got.
Maybe I'm being too logical.
Spoiled would be nice.
We get a few CL finishes and suddenly our fans get mad delusions of grandeur. Arseholes finished top 4 for 22 straight seasons. We hwr a couple at their expense and our fans act as though they don't matter anymore.
Beat Manure a few times and suddenly the most supported club on the planet, who have no stadium debts, pay high transfers and wages are irrelevant?
It's madness how some of our fans act.
As has already been mentioned looking at the CV and not also the job that is being considered is useless.
Ten Haag definitely has a better CV overall. The Dutch league is better than the Argentinian League, he has success in Europe and done well working with youth. I would say overall his CV is better and having worked in Europe it is more likely it will be an easier transition.
For Potter and Parker they both have PL experience which is a plus, they both spoke English which again is a plus, they both are known to fans which makes it easier for Levy to sell, Parker has a connection to the club which again makes it easy for Levy to use for PR purposes.
Sarri sucks and is going to Roma anyways so is irrelevant.
Gallardo has never worked in Europe as a manager, does not speak English and it is rare (or maybe never occured) that a manager comes straight from SA to manage in the PL. I personally would be fine taking a risk on him but I think it is highly, highly unlikely that Levy would even consider him let alone hire him.
You know what'll happen, we'll do what we always do, and go for the "Almost but not quite, lite" version of manager...
When Wenger was at Woolwich, we went with the 'Studious, schoolmaster/vaguely Germanic type' in Christian Gross....
When that didn't work out, we just went 'he's French, that'll do ' with Santini....
When OTHER clubs' ex-players returned to manage them, we thought we'd have a go ourselves with Hoddle and Ardiles.... neither worked out well...
When Mourinho mk.I was winning everything with Chelsea, we went with a poor man's Portugese version in AVB.... that worked out well!
Jol was 'woulda coulda shoulda' ...but we got rid when we did...
Poch was the one we shoulda thrown everything at to keep beyond the CL Final campaign, but again, we knew best...
Now it seems that young German managers are in vogue with Tuchel and Neigelsmann....
Expect us to go 'almost, but not quite with Klinsmann or Hussental (Austrian, but close enough!)
Maybe Ryan Mason or Scott Parker ARE the next big thing in young, English managers.... but we'll never truly know, c is we'll probably wreck them before they've had a chance to prove themselves!
When Wenger was at Woolwich, we went with the 'Studious, schoolmaster/vaguely Germanic type' in Christian Gross....
When that didn't work out, we just went 'he's French, that'll do ' with Santini....
When OTHER clubs' ex-players returned to manage them, we thought we'd have a go ourselves with Hoddle and Ardiles.... neither worked out well...
When Mourinho mk.I was winning everything with Chelsea, we went with a poor man's Portugese version in AVB.... that worked out well!
Jol was 'woulda coulda shoulda' ...but we got rid when we did...
Poch was the one we shoulda thrown everything at to keep beyond the CL Final campaign, but again, we knew best...
Now it seems that young German managers are in vogue with Tuchel and Neigelsmann....
Expect us to go 'almost, but not quite with Klinsmann or Hussental (Austrian, but close enough!)
Maybe Ryan Mason or Scott Parker ARE the next big thing in young, English managers.... but we'll never truly know, c is we'll probably wreck them before they've had a chance to prove themselves!
I agree, I'd like to see better results. But look at the players he has too.
Brighton's expected goals (for and against) tell a more encouraging story. If you look at Net xG (xG - xGA), Brighton rank 5th (!).
Most of their underperformance is in goals scored. Which suggests their finishing is poor. With better finishers results would be way better. And happily we have some of the best finishers out there.
If he can translate that xG team performance to us, we'd be in very good shape.
Thanks for the points.
I strongly disagree about the standard of SA football tbh. Watch some matches if you haven't whilst it's not the Premier league it's a way above championship level. Then look at the Dutch league, 12 team only 3 or 4 will ever win it, mainly Ajax. Maybe Ajax are better than the best Argentinian or Brazilian teams, but feyenoord, AZ, PSV these teams arent. All fair matches.
When you actually analyse it in detail those SA leagues get raided for their best players all the time purely because of money it's nothing to do with quality.
The pressure over there on coaches and players is huge because money isn't the large factor over there the same way it is in Europe. If you're successful in SA, you're generally successful in Europe.
As for multicultural stuff I'm not defending Argentina because its definitely got a lot of racism, but Poch was argentine, we have argentine players and ex players. Gallardo has played in different countries so im sure multiculturalism wouldn't be an issue here. Hey I don't know him personally though.
A side note, Poch being close with him you could imagine they would speak. What better person to have in your ear moving into spurs than Poch who knows those players and the club inside out and would be happy for his friend to succeed.
That's completely fantasy there but who knows lol I'm trying to find some light after these depressing years and after all this Potter or Parker just do not light my fire.
Ten Haag would. So would the unknown of Gallardo considering his promise on paper. He's no AVB put it that way. He's older and has won things already in a good quality league.
In a a results business thats worrying
That seems to be the main arguement for potter. Nice football no finisher.
The way i see it hes had 2 years to sort it and are now 4th from bottom
At this stage I don't think there's anything Levy will do thats predictable. The ESL, Jose etc shows this we can't judge where we are financially and what he has planned because we just don't know.
Regarding CV, we will have to beg to differ. I think winning titles in SA and becoming a clubs most successful manager shows he can take a club to the next level.
Ajax winning isn't a shock either. Its always going to be them or someone else and their academy is world class.
By your token on Potter and Parker, its just so short term. Eddie Howe was successful for a spell with Bournemouth and I see him a better manager than the above 2.
Could Gallardo have finished mid table and then relegated with Bournemouth? Could he finish bottom half with Brighton? Relegation with Fulham?
This is what you're comparing winning titles in SA to doing in the Premier league that's what I can't get my head around. It's too narrow minded for an English league thats dominated by foreign players and managers.