6 points potentially gained is practically the difference between them and City."It is the third time this season Woolwich have wrongly escaped a VAR penalty in a game they have won by one goal."
VAR error cost Brighton a penalty against Arsenal
Brighton should have been awarded a penalty in their 1-0 loss at home to Woolwich on 4 March, says the Premier League's KMI Panel.www.bbc.co.uk
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Rules Referees & Impartiality: Can this be delivered on a consistent basis?
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So far incorrect decisions in Woolwich matches (either admitted by PGMO or agreed by the Key Match Panel)
Everton by a 3-2 majority should have had a penalty vs Woolwich
Enzo Fernandez goal for Chelsea vs Woolwich should have been disallowed for offside
Penalty on Max Dowman vs Leeds in 5-0 win should not have been awarded
Penalty should have awarded to Brighton
So in effect 3-1 in Woolwich's favour
Whereas for us the decisions ruled incorrect by Key Match Incident Panel have been
Romero by 3-2 majority should have had Red card at Brentford
Romero by 5-0 majority should have received red card at home to Brentford
Penalty on Oscar Bobb for Man City not awarded against Man City
Disallowed goal by Micky Van de Ven versus West Ham should have been awarded
Archie Gray penalty versus Brentford should have been awarded
So in effect 3-2 in our favour
There is at least a 15 point swing between them and City due to dodgy decisions.
Man U should have had a penalty v Woolwich in the 90th min of the 1st game of the season.
Newcastle should have had a penalty against Woolwich at 85 mins when the score was 1-1.
Newcastle had an offside goal count against City.
City should have had at least 1 penalty v Forest the other week, that’s already 7-8 point swing on just 4 wrong decisions.
United non red card for Dalot vs City…
Countless examples
I guess they are coincidences and these things even out over the course of the season…
Has any team ever gone a full season without conceding a penalty and never having a player sent off?
Things never even out with certain teams, Liverpool also had a ton of decisions go their way in previous seasons.
I doubt many teams go a season without conceding a penalty or red card, didn’t they have the record for the most red cards last year?
The text of the article does mention this but the headline doesn't: it drives me crazy that these get described as "VAR errors" as opposed to incorrect decisions by the referee on the field."It is the third time this season Woolwich have wrongly escaped a VAR penalty in a game they have won by one goal."
VAR error cost Brighton a penalty against Arsenal
Brighton should have been awarded a penalty in their 1-0 loss at home to Woolwich on 4 March, says the Premier League's KMI Panel.
The referees should get the calls right and VAR involvement should be extremely rare.
It has not and cannot be that way of course because of how the inherent nature of VAR fucks with the incentives involved, but the whole thing is laundered and propagandized through framing it like this.
Don't think we can blame him for Romero doing his Stupid Cunt routine.
The first yellow was for complaining about Ekitike blatantly shoving him in the back before the goal.
A decision the PGMOL have managed to prove was wrong by disallowing one of our goals for a much more harmless push
So you are saying he was complaining about an Ekitike foul against Liverpool in a match he got sent off for an awful challenge against Man Utd.
So explain that one away please
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I’ve got my games mixed up
The United one was only a red for Romero. Oliver couldn’t get his card out fast enough and we will see at least 3 challenges the same or worse that don’t see red this weekend alone
But, he does get reffed based on the narrative around him and he does have to know that he’s going to get sent off if he gets that type of challenge even slightly wrong in a Spurs shirt.
In his Argentina shirt this summer, he won’t get sent off for a single tackle like that. I’m willing to take that bet right now
Disagree.
Referee can and do make mistakes during the game, just like every single player, in fact less than every player. They also only get one view and that can be obstructed.
There are not only 18 mistakes the referees have made this season, there are many more (if you believe the tin hat people on here every foul given against Spurs and everything not given for Spurs is an error). The other mistakes are identified by the Key Match Panel.
The VAR though has no excuse to get things wrong. And in 18 cases this year, despite having time to review numerous times from numerous angles, they come to the incorrect conclusion, to a large degree that in a room of 100 trained referees, it is estimated a minimum of 80 would give the decision the other way, that is how PGMO sold VAR interference. These are refereeing mistakes, that VAR have erroneously failed to correct, these are VAR errors
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They don’t even admit to all the VAR errors being mistakes because most of the time they want to back up the on field ref
We’ve had the same push in the back foul punish us on 4 occasions and in contradictory ways for all of them, but none of them have been logged as VAR errors… it’s impossible to explain as honest mistakes anymore
I don’t need to post the countless similar challenges that weren’t reds that weekend alone
You can argue if he earned his reputation with officials, you can’t argue that it influences the way he’s officiated. It’s a stone cold fact
You really cant post others the same.
Because really there isn’t any.
Nobody else tackles the way he occasionally does with full on studs showing follow through on to opponent like against Chelsea or Man Utd.
Those sort of challenges he makes had a part in the game up to the 90s, where basically if you got a part of the ball who were not getting sent off, but have long been eradicated from the game, and apart from the deliberate Keane on Haaland one and I do seem to recall one other this season, which was also a red card, they are very uncommon.
Seriously if he wasn’t our player you would be calling him a thug and all sorts, but because he is one of ours you are just trying to defend the indefensible
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There was literally 3 that weekend that were the same or worse.
Gaslight yourself if you like, I’m not buying it
There’s a well crafted narrative built around him and he needs to do more to counter it.
If Van Dijk had the same narrative around him, he’d have more reds than Romero… if Gabriel was covered the same way, he’d get sent off for simulation most games. The refs “scout” these players and the coverage they get in the media 100% paints the way they research these players habits
VAR: Uefa calls leagues to summit over 'microscopic' video assistant referees
Europe's top leagues are summoned to a meeting with Uefa to discuss how VAR technology is being used.
www.bbc.co.uk
This could be swings and roundabouts.
1. I think the “very high bar” in Premier League for interventions could be removed, or alternatively
2. Referees decision remains even more paramount and referees will stop have to stop relying on VAR as they will only intervene in the most serious of cases.
3. Premier League may be forced to get in line with rest of world in respect of handballs.
No more as it is now, one set of interpretations that the Premier League Use, and one everywhere else use and IFAB want.