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I have dismissed it as non-discriminatory because they are cherry-picked examples -

If I showed you an equal number of examples this season where we got away with things, would that satisfy you that there’s no bias? If not, then we’re not actually using a standard that can be tested — we’re just arguing from vibe and from an unobjective - i watch spurs more than any other club and so i do not experience football in any other way - view

Take Romero's red vs Man U for his non-red against Brentford.

What about Fernandes' red last season that should never have been given - does that cancel Romero's out? Your argument about Romeros was the bias was against the player and that the ref assumed it was a red instantly because of him, yet a different ref in a different game (Brentford) saw him making what looked like a red card challenge and only booked him with a yellow.

What about Halaand's second goal last season that was ruled out vs the one in the West Ham game - don't they cancel each other out too - do you think Halaand's goal should have stood? Don't Man City have more pressure on the refs than we do?

So what type of examples do you require for you to at least accept it?
 
Good to see genuine Tottenham fans being critical of the refereeing Spurs get and whether there is a pattern of clear bias against the club. When you see that Spurs have the most yellow cards, the most red cards and Tottenham aren't a very physical team, and have not one single penalty given in favour this season, it does prove a pattern of bias.
As someone said, the club should do more to stand up for Spurs. They could make a statement of the facts I just mentioned and say they are concerned there may be an alarming number of poor decisions which is costing this club more than others.
But glad to read some have woken up to what the FA and PGMOL are doing against Tottenham.
 
Good to see genuine Tottenham fans being critical of the refereeing Spurs get and whether there is a pattern of clear bias against the club. When you see that Spurs have the most yellow cards, the most red cards and Tottenham aren't a very physical team, and have not one single penalty given in favour this season, it does prove a pattern of bias.
As someone said, the club should do more to stand up for Spurs. They could make a statement of the facts I just mentioned and say they are concerned there may be an alarming number of poor decisions which is costing this club more than others.
But glad to read some have woken up to what the FA and PGMOL are doing against Tottenham.
Least fouls per yellow too.
 
Good to see genuine Tottenham fans being critical of the refereeing Spurs get and whether there is a pattern of clear bias against the club. When you see that Spurs have the most yellow cards, the most red cards and Tottenham aren't a very physical team, and have not one single penalty given in favour this season, it does prove a pattern of bias.
As someone said, the club should do more to stand up for Spurs. They could make a statement of the facts I just mentioned and say they are concerned there may be an alarming number of poor decisions which is costing this club more than others.
But glad to read some have woken up to what the FA and PGMOL are doing against Tottenham.

I do not disagree with the premise that Spurs are getting more shit decisions than the majority of other Premier League clubs.

I have thought this for some time.

Lot's of fouls against Spurs players go unpunished or punished with a double standard too.

My question is;

Why?

Why
do we think we are being discriminated against?

What reason would the Premier League referees have to referee Spurs games with a double standard?
 
So what type of examples do you require for you to at least accept it?

You would need to show me consistent examples that I can't counter with examples of us getting away with stuff

Like I just did.

Have you accepted my examples to counter yours?

Do you think Fernandes should have been sent off last year?
Do you think Romero should have been sent off vs Brentford?
Should Haaland's goal have stood last season?
What about Diaz's disallowed goal in the 2-1 a couple of years back?
Should Spence have been booked for his frankly, ridiculous dive vs Liverpool in Dec?
 
You would need to show me consistent examples that I can't counter with examples of us getting away with stuff

Like I just did.

Have you accepted my examples to counter yours?

Do you think Fernandes should have been sent off last year?
Do you think Romero should have been sent off vs Brentford?
Should Haaland's goal have stood last season?
What about Diaz's disallowed goal in the 2-1 a couple of years back?
Should Spence have been booked for his frankly, ridiculous dive vs Liverpool in Dec?

I have accepted them but I don't think they counter my arguments properly and I've given a load of examples based on this season alone in this thread which you haven't taken into account anyway. Besides all this if the premise of my argument is about subjective calls like 50/50's and bookings and those subjective penalty calls and then this is backed up with the foul to card ratio this season plus the lack of pens we have been given over the past few seasons, other than that I cannot give you what you want and thus as I said before this is a pointless back and fourth.
 
I have accepted them but I don't think they counter my arguments properly and I've given a load of examples based on this season alone in this thread which you haven't taken into account anyway. Besides all this if the premise of my argument is about subjective calls like 50/50's and bookings and those subjective penalty calls and then this is backed up with the foul to card ratio this season plus the lack of pens we have been given over the past few seasons, other than that I cannot give you what you want and thus as I said before this is a pointless back and fourth.

You havent given loads imho, you've given some equalling for me what many other teams could give for thiers

Foul to card ratio means nothing mate, literally nothing without an assessment of if the fouls warranted yellows or not and if they were given too harshly.

Youre choosing to believe it to be unjust, even though ours to the 4-6 of the next teams is, from memory 1-1.5 extra fouls, statistically not a huge amount when you look at the large amount of extra tackles we put in overall.

Do you work in statistical data and probability?
 
You havent given loads imho, you've given some equalling for me what many other teams could give for thiers

Foul to card ratio means nothing mate, literally nothing without an assessment of if the fouls warranted yellows or not and if they were given too harshly.

Youre choosing to believe it to be unjust, even though ours to the 4-6 of the next teams is, from memory 1-1.5 extra fouls, statistically not a huge amount when you look at the large amount of extra tackles we put in overall.

Do you work in statistical data and probability?

'nothing' lol ok then no worries, pointless convo like I said.
 


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Nope no bias there is there 😆
 
Clearly the referees have their bias, just as they helped Leicester win the league.

They are inept and bias, and make plenty of mistakes.

Its why getting pulled into football emotionally is rationally stupid. Why even bother when officials are impartial?

Maybe I would care more about Kolo's disallowed goal if we were actually a decent football side.
 

I do not disagree with the premise that Spurs are getting more shit decisions than the majority of other Premier League clubs.

I have thought this for some time.

Lot's of fouls against Spurs players go unpunished or punished with a double standard too.

My question is;

Why?

Why
do we think we are being discriminated against?

What reason would the Premier League referees have to referee Spurs games with a double standard?
Why is coz Arse,nil are being backed by Sky who paid billions to own the EPL. Spurs are Arse.nil rival - there is the answer.
 
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