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Management Relegation

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Do you think we'll stay up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 184 40.1%
  • No

    Votes: 275 59.9%

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I don’t see how we can win a game? Can’t keep a clean sheet, and very unlikely to score more than one goal

I guess if we can get a back four of Porro, Romero, Danso and VDV there’s a half decent base but who knows if he we will play a four. We certainly don’t have a LWB.

Midfield is pony.

Solanke is alright but not a goalscorer really.

No pace in the wide areas, no-one can beat a man or create a pass to take people out of the game

Grim
 
All I keep getting told the past few weeks is Spurs aren't in danger of going down and that I'm being overly pessimistic even for me.

Well here we go:
2 wins and total of 12 points in last 18 matches
1 win and total of 7 points in last 10 matches
0 wins and total of 2 points in last 7 matches

Here's the table for 2026. Every team in the league, Including wolves, have outperformed us & is in better form and playing better than us. Their players are actually fighting for results whereas ours give up as soon as something goes against them like the muani disallowed goal.
We are going down

 
Would probably fuck us immeasurably in the medium term but playing in the champ would, at the very least, be a mental adventure.

2 years of barely winning any bloody football matches has really worn me down. I'm getting to the point where I don't really give a fuck anymore and even relegation doesn't feel as apocalyptic as it probably should.

If we end up like Leeds or, to a lesser extent, Villa and get stuck down there for years, that would be very grim. But if we can keep a chunk of our best players and bounce straight back up, I reckon I'd enjoy it a lot more than I have the last 2 utterly miserable league seasons where I've gone into about 70-80% of matches expecting us to lose, even at home.

Vuskovic would be a monster in the champ and we could properly reconnect with our talented youth players by integrating Moore, Lankshear, Byfield, etc.

This is how low we've fallen - I'm trying to convince myself relegation wouldn't be that bad - but on a game-by-game enjoyment basis, I really don't think things can get worse from a fan perspective than they have been for about 18 months now.

I'd definitely enjoy seeing us play some lesser quality sides more often, especially since we can't get our sh** together at a Prem level. Ah- the halcyon days when one could run around a bit and play an old fashioned, redknappian 4-4-2!
 
In a not so direct way this is a real risk. The players clearly felt let down by the fans for booing.
You can see it in the way they play every game.

They never push up when the ball is cleared, they can't be arsed to counter attack, they can't string more than three passes together without losing possesion, there's no movement off the ball when we do get possesion, and nobody wants to help anybody else in the team.

That video going around of VDV completely ignoring Tudor telling him to push up sums it all up perfectly. They don't care!!!!!!

It's nothing to do with ability, it's all about attitude. In the last two seasons, this squad finished 5th and and won it's biggest trophy for 40 years. FACT!!!!....this proves the ability is there to be much higher in the table. It all counts for nothing though if the players can't be bothered. And all the evidence so far tells you they just don't care. Tudor isn't changing that and if the team plays as badly again against Fulham, if I was him, I'd walk away from this shit show.
 
To CatGPT: Today is 23rd February 2026. With quite a few league games left to play, given those games and the form and capabilities of the teams, which 3 teams do you think will be relegated from the Premier League by the end of the 2025/2026 season?

Here’s a friendly, data-informed take on which three teams look most likely to be relegated from the Premier League in the 2025/26 season, based on current league position, form, and bookmakers’ odds (as of 23 Feb 2026):

📉 Most Likely to Be Relegated​

  1. Wolverhampton Wanderers
    • By far the biggest favourites for relegation across multiple betting markets — often priced at essentially “certain” to go down.
    • Wolves have struggled dramatically this season, with one of the lowest points totals in the league and a negative goal difference that’s tough to overcome.
  2. Burnley
    • Burnley are also heavily tipped to drop back to the Championship. They’ve been hovering well below the survival threshold for much of the campaign, and the gap to safety remains significant.
    • Historically, newly promoted teams often find it hard to adjust to Premier League intensity, and Burnley haven’t picked up enough wins to suggest a turnaround yet.
  3. West Ham United (or alternately a form-slipping side like Nottingham Forest or Leeds)
    • West Ham are priced as a big relegation contender, with odds around 5/6 to go down, showing how tight their season has been.
    • Current form shows some improvement, but they’re still near the bottom and only a few points above the drop zone, meaning another poor run could send them over the line.
    • Alternative picks: Nottingham Forest and Leeds United have also flirted with danger and could be pulled into the bottom three, especially if results go against them in key fixtures.

💭 Why These Picks?​

  • Points gap & form: Wolves and Burnley have consistently been behind the pack in both points and recent form.
  • Odds consensus: Bookmakers across different platforms agree these two are the most likely to go down, with West Ham next in the queue.
  • Fluid battle above them: Teams like Forest and Leeds are much closer to safety and have examples of better recent results, meaning they’re on the nicer side of the relegation dogfight — but it’s still tight.

If you want, I can break this down further with projected tables or what each team needs in their remaining games to survive — that helps make these kinds of predictions even clearer!

How will Spurs do?

Here’s a clear, current picture of how Tottenham Hotspur are doing this 2025/26 Premier League season and what that might mean for the rest of the campaign 👇

📊 Current Situation (as of 23 Feb 2026)​

  • Spurs are sitting around 16th place in the Premier League table, just a few points above the relegation zone (roughly 4–5 points clear).
  • Their recent form has been very poor, with long winless stretches in the league and more losses than you’d expect for a club of their size.
  • Managerial change has just happened — Thomas Frank was sacked and Igor Tudor has taken over in hopes of turning things around.

📈 Relegation Risk — Not Zero, But Not Most Likely​

  • Bookmakers have at times priced Spurs’ relegation odds around 6/1 to 9/1, which implies a noticeable but not huge risk of dropping out of the Premier League by season’s end.
  • Statistical models like Opta’s have recently placed their relegation probability in the low single-digit percentages (around ~3–4%) — meaning survival is still far more likely than going down.

🧠 What’s Behind Those Numbers​

Why Spurs are in trouble:

  • Poor league form right now, with too few wins and too many draws/losses.
  • Injury issues and squad confidence problems have hampered performance. Reporters and pundits note a psychological slump in recent weeks.
Why Spurs are still expected to survive:

  • They’re still ahead of the bottom three by several points, so there’s a buffer to exploit with improved results.
  • Even despite the slump, models and odds still give them a significantly higher chance to stay up than to go down, which fits with how these predictions tend to weigh league position and strength of squad.

🔮 Outlook for the Rest of the Season​

⭐ Most realistic scenario right now:
Tottenham fight successfully to stay up, perhaps with a run of a few wins that pulls them comfortably clear of danger. Their manager will be judged on building confidence and tightening up the defence.

⚠️ But if their current winless trend continues, and especially if rivals around them start picking up points, the relegation scrap could get very tense — although many analysts still see survival as the more likely outcome.


Bottom line: Spurs are in a surprising relegation battle rather than comfortably mid-table right now, but most models and bookmakers still see them as more likely to stay in the Premier League than go down — with their risk elevated but not among the very highest. 🙌

Would you like a quick look at Spurs’ upcoming fixtures? That can give a feel for whether they might start picking up points soon.

Yes, where do you see Spurs picking up points?

Absolutely — looking at Tottenham’s remaining Premier League fixtures for the 2025/26 season (based on the official league schedule), here’s where I’d expect them to realistically pick up points 🟢 and where they’ll likely struggle 🔴:

📍

🔹 5 Mar — vs Crystal Palace (Home)
This is one of the most favourable fixtures on the run-in. Palace are currently mid-table and inconsistent; Spurs at home should be strong contenders for at least a draw — if not all three points.

🔹 22 Mar — vs Nottingham Forest (Home)
Forest are in the bottom half and closer to a relegation battle. A home game gives Spurs a good chance to secure points against a fellow struggler.

🔹 18 Apr — vs Brighton & Hove Albion (Home)
Brighton often rotate and struggle on the road. At home this is another chance to grind out a result, especially if Spurs have gained some momentum by then.

🔹 9 May — vs Leeds United (Home)
Late-season home matches against teams outside the very top tier are where Spurs could really make gains — especially if Leeds are still fighting for survival too.

🔹 24 May — vs Everton (Home)
Final day clashes can be vital in a relegation scrap, and hosting a side like Everton, who have been wavering themselves, presents a good opportunity to pick up points.


🔸

⚠️ 1 Mar — at Fulham
Away to a team in the top half is never straightforward — Fulham have been steady and could be hard to beat on their own turf.

⚠️ 15 Mar — at Liverpool
A trip to one of the league’s stronger teams is a difficult assignment. Draw possible, win less likely.

⚠️ 11 Apr — at Sunderland
Sunderland have been scrappy and tough to break down at home — this will be one of Spurs’ trickiest away games.

⚠️ 2 May — at Aston Villa
Villa typically make life difficult and are more consistent than most current bottom-half sides. Away here is a challenge.


📊 How This Helps Spurs Avoid Relegation​

  • There are several winnable matches, mostly at home against sides that aren’t top-tier (Crystal Palace, Nottingham Forest, Brighton, Leeds, Everton).
  • Spurs need to turn home advantage into points — draws help, but wins here would be huge for breathing space.
  • Away games will be tougher, but grinding out a couple of draws could be just as important if the relegation battle stays tight.

🌦️ What It All Means:
Tottenham’s pathway to safety leans heavily on capitalising at home and avoiding heavy defeats on the road. They’ve got enough fixtures against mid-table and lower-mid teams that, if they gel under Tudor, they absolutely have opportunities to climb out of trouble. The pressure will be on in April and May, though — every point will count.

If you’d like, I can highlight the most crucial “six-pointer” matches — games against direct relegation rivals where results could swing the drop fight. Just say!

I just asked ChatGPT and it said Sheffield United would be in the bottom 3 😂
 
on Talkshite earlier. Some bloke was banging on about how Conte and Jose and Ange and Frank couldn’t get a tune out of this club

I could not help but feel a little insulted by that narrative.

Jose got us to a cup final, finished 6th and was 5 points off top 4 when sacked.

Conte pulled off a miracle in 2022 to get 4th, and making a rabble of a team look strong and classy. He was in the top 4 when he walked.

Whereas Ange and Frank had league positions no one can defend. Ange does have Bilbao though.

So my point is, how do these media pricks manage to mix in relative success with what has gone on this season and say no one can do anything better @ Spurs ? When clearly many have ?
You had Roy Keane on the Ange Overlap seemingly baffled that we sacked Frank. He needed more time apparently.

I think they like us down here and have wanted it this way ever since we started being decent again under Jol.
 
Morbid thought-exercise: Relegated Spurs 26/27


Kinsky
Djed - Vusk - Danso - Udog
Galla ---- Berg
Xavi
Kudus ------------ Tel
Dom

Subs: Lankshear, Moore, Devine, Gray, de Souza, Byfield, Phillips, Austin
Sell: Romero, Van de Ven, Porro, Richarlison, Bentancur, Dragusin, Vicario
Medical retirement/out another season: Kulu, Maddison

It actually seems like a fun lil team, if not for how we got there...
Vuskovic, Gallagher, Bergvall, Xavi, Udogie and probably Solanke are not playing Championship football
 
Time to close ranks and get behind the team and manager and get through the remainder of the season. We should be alright. We won't be playing those fellows from yesterday each week and the lot we're competing with have their own problems.

Exactly.

Fcuk sake.

Forget who thinks they are too good, who some think are too bad etc.

It's in our hands, and Tudor and the players need to find a way.

Worrying about individual fcuking players makes me sick.

We are THFC, not certain players FC.
 
Closest we’ve ever come in my lifetime for sure! The teams below us all seem to have some fight and I haven’t anything from us yet and nothing to suggest we have that dog in us.

On paper we should be ok as we play a lot of the teams around us which theoretically should dent their chances if we beat them. But this can also go against us. Fail to pick up points in the next 3-4 games and we could be screwed
Not sure what your lifetime is but 96/97 was much like this. Bolton were relegated on 40 points and we finished on 44. After we lost to the Chavs on 11th April we had 35 points with 5 games to go. We only had 37 points with 3 games to go. We weren't safe until the penultimate game of the season when Klinsmann scored 4 in a 6-2 win away to Wimbledon. We were in 19th at the halfway point and we were bang in trouble. Klinsmann coming back gave us a massive lift. Not sure Gallagher is going to have the same impact.
 
Perhaps they might discover the point amongst the hundreds of thousands of pounds that hit their accounts on a weekly basis.
They aren’t all going to be able to leave if we go down. It’s going to hurt their careers financially and make other clubs think twice about signing them, harming their future prospects.

Micky doesn’t want to listen, downs tools when he feels like it and reckons Liverpool will make him their new Van Dijk?
 
That video going around of VDV completely ignoring Tudor telling him to push up sums it all up perfectly. They don't care!!!!!!
It's the culture of the club. There's a thread about it.

For years and years there has been no desire for sporting success at the top and this loser mentality creeps down and infects every aspect of the football club like a virus.

There is so much shit in this squad that any decent player will inevitably have their game dragged down.

I even remember Harry Kane's body language towards the end as he was seen mouthing the words "what's the fucking point" during a match.

It has to be demoralising for our better players.

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, leads back to the top.

Conte called it. Ange called it. Romero called it.

Until these absolutely disgusting scumbags are driven out of our club the disease will remain and every top player will look for the exit.
 
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I don’t see how we can win a game? Can’t keep a clean sheet, and very unlikely to score more than one goal

I guess if we can get a back four of Porro, Romero, Danso and VDV there’s a half decent base but who knows if he we will play a four. We certainly don’t have a LWB.

Midfield is pony.

Solanke is alright but not a goalscorer really.

No pace in the wide areas, no-one can beat a man or create a pass to take people out of the game

Grim

Let's tell the other clubs we forfeit our right to be in the PL.

I refuse to believe we don't have the players to get us the necessary points, but if we do go down we will 100% deserve to.

But the absolutely pathetic thing from so many posters on here and the bit that shames them continually, but does not change our situation is that a lot of those now slating the squad openly thought it was pretty damned good after the summer.

The bottom line for me is that the previous manager did a sh!t job, on top of a previous manager who bullsh!!tted his way through defeat after defeat.

We are in this situation because the actions that should have been taken were inexplicably delayed, the winter window negligence and a crippling injury list. Facts but there to be dealt with.

ENIC have to go but the one-trick ponies never ever put names of players down that we could reasonably obtain.

We can all do hindsight, but in the short term we have 3 massive games, anf must stay those 4 points or more ahead of West Ham.
 
They aren’t all going to be able to leave if we go down. It’s going to hurt their careers financially and make other clubs think twice about signing them, harming their future prospects.

Micky doesn’t want to listen, downs tools when he feels like it and reckons Liverpool will make him their new Van Dijk?
Alright Murph... they will pretty much all leave. When Villa went down in 15/16 they shipped 14 first team players. Those they couldn't sell they loaned out. The only players that I could see staying would be Kinsky, Davies, Spence, Gray, Odobert and possibly Sarr... maybe Souza but will probably loan him back to Brazil. The rest... they will have suitors and we will need to get their salaries off our books to comply with Football League rules which are vastly different from Premier League rules.
 
I think that there is no way that we get relegated.
Look at the run-in of games our relegation compatriots have.
The new manager seems like a down to earth guy who speaks his mind and won't take histrionics from any of the players.
Sure, we got flogged in the NLD, but there were some periods of play which gave me reason to be hopeful.
Don't forget that Tudor had less than a week for preparation for that game. The next games will be better.
11 games to go.
2 wins and 3 draws will get us to 38 points.
 
Not sure what your lifetime is but 96/97 was much like this. Bolton were relegated on 40 points and we finished on 44. After we lost to the Chavs on 11th April we had 35 points with 5 games to go. We only had 37 points with 3 games to go. We weren't safe until the penultimate game of the season when Klinsmann scored 4 in a 6-2 win away to Wimbledon. We were in 19th at the halfway point and we were bang in trouble. Klinsmann coming back gave us a massive lift. Not sure Gallagher is going to have the same impact.
I think you'll find it was 97/98. 96/97 was defined by a huge injury crisis where we were actually playing players from the youth team. It was testament to Gerry Francis's defensive organisation that we finished 10th. Our top scorer was Sheringham with 8 goals and our best performers over the season were Stephen Carr, Sol Campbell and Andy Sinton.

Klinsmann made his return in 97/98 in a 1-1 draw with Woolwich right off the back of a 4-1 defeat at Villa Park. It was notable wins against Barnsley, Everton, Blackburn Rovers, Crystal Palace, Wimbledon, Bolton, West Ham and Newcastle that kept us up. We managed two draws against Woolwich in a season where they did the league and cup double and we lost 6-1 at home to Chelsea. It was also key that our managerial change happened in November rather than February.

My concern with this season is that none of the things that build momentum in a relegation scrap are happening. We haven't signed players to strengthen the squad, there is no marquee signing to lift morale, we're losing the matches we should be winning, we've been humiliated by our North London rivals and the only positive we have is a very late manager change with no time to make any significant impact on the team. It doesn't look good.
 
I think that there is no way that we get relegated.
Look at the run-in of games our relegation compatriots have.
The new manager seems like a down to earth guy who speaks his mind and won't take histrionics from any of the players.
Sure, we got flogged in the NLD, but there were some periods of play which gave me reason to be hopeful.
Don't forget that Tudor had less than a week for preparation for that game. The next games will be better.
11 games to go.
2 wins and 3 draws will get us to 38 points.

The only problem is I don’t see us winning two games
 
I’m surprised there is anyone that is confident we will definitely stay up, been shit for 12+ months in the league and Tudor needs to put a rocket up the players to drastically change it around.
Definitely would give a few of the youngsters a chance as most of the senior players don’t deserve to start anymore.
 
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