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Management Relegation

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Do you think we'll stay up?

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    Votes: 184 40.1%
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    Votes: 275 59.9%

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This can all be traced right back to those back to back transfer windows without making a signing, the start of the rot.
I'd go even further. Our stock was so high summer 2016, great young team and manager, CL football and yet we couldnt land one of our top targets of Mane, Zaha and Wijnaldum. Wanyama was an ok signing but Janssen, Nkoudou and Sissoko set the tone for the next 10 years. Just poor players. The momentum carried on our great form for another 2.5 years but the die was cast.
 
Vuskovic and Bergvall aren't going to play a second of Championship football. Those are the kinds of talents the elite clubs will be circling. I think we'd be doing really well to keep Gray. If he stays for a season of Championship football we should build a statue of the lad.

These young talents will be the first names that City, Barca and Bayern will be coming to poach. I don't think the sporting directors of any of these clubs are going to want arrogant clowns like Porro and VDV in their dressing rooms.

They’re all under contract though and unless they’ve relegation clauses in their contracts they are stuck with us and them. They need to be reminded of that by the owners. That if we go down it will be made as hard as we possibly can for them to leave. I suspect that would focus a few minds.
 
I know they're under contract but we both know that this just isn't how football works. These are elite young talents, they are not turning down Barcelona or Man City to play Portsmouth away and hang around lower midtable Premier League for a few seasons.

The players we'll keep in the Championship will be the likes of Danso, Spence, Kinsky, Sarr because that's their level and then young players like Moore, Yang Min-Hyeok, Scarlett, Alfie Devine, Ashley Phillips, Takai. I also think we'll keep Maddison because he won't be the same player after his injury. Maybe Solanke because he's not good enough for the money we'd want for him.

We'll likely be buying and selling 10-11 players each way.
This is unprecedented though, a Club as rich as ours has never been relegated, people may point to Leeds however they were financially fucked, I'm not saying we are going to keep everyone however surely the aim would be to just steam roller the championship next year by having a better squad then everyone else, come to think of it, if that is the plan then maybe we are best off getting rid of half these cunts as they aren't even Champo standard!
 
Some of us have been there and got the T shirt. If we do go down, I can guarantee for the majority it will be one of your best times supporting Spurs. It’ll be football as it was meant to be. Dodgy grounds, dodgy pies and some of the hardest firms you’ll come across. COYS! TTID!
 
I’m on the verge of checking out of all football. I’ve had it with the diving, cheating, wrestling, time-wasting, the long throws, injury-faking and most of all the useless, spineless refs and joy-sapping farce that is VAR.

At least I can say that I was there when a perfectly good goal, that none of us could have objected to and that the Palace fans deserved to celebrate, was eventually, after what seemed line 5 minutes, disallowed for the tip of a nose being offside. No doubt the failed traffic wardens and ex-council litter inspectors of Stockley Park and PGMOL were celebrating getting that one right and preparing their “offside is offside” statements into the early hours.

I’ve had enough. It’s all bollocks.

A few of us have reached that stage!

I fell in love with football with us in the early 60’s, World Cup win in 66 and again the World Cup in Mexico in 1970

We’ve been absolute shite for so long!!

Last night was embarrassing against a barely average Palace side who could have scored more but took their foot off the gas!
 
Woolwich fans on sky saying the worst thing we did was bin off Levy 😆

Woolwich fans.....Says it all.

Getting rid of Levy after the season had started was dumb as fuck, no doubt about it. For better or worse he ran every aspect of the club, you can't just kick him out randomly and trust in two nobodies like Vinai and Lange. We were not ready to get rid of him.

If Levy were still here, he'd never have let Frank stay so long or failed to sign any attackers in January. He would have acted. That doesn't mean I absolve him of his crimes against the club that have led us to this point.
 
Vuskovic and Bergvall aren't going to play a second of Championship football. Those are the kinds of talents the elite clubs will be circling. I think we'd be doing really well to keep Gray. If he stays for a season of Championship football we should build a statue of the lad.

These young talents will be the first names that City, Barca and Bayern will be coming to poach. I don't think the sporting directors of any of these clubs are going to want arrogant clowns like Porro and VDV in their dressing rooms.

We are not a charity. Once Romero and VDV and the rest are gone for £100-200m then clubs have to pay. Vuskovic is the best U21 CB there is, we helped him massively loaning him to Belgium and Germany. He will go if Bayern offer £100m but unless we get an offer like that there is simply no reason to sell.
 
To avoid relegation I think we need to play to the strengths of our uninjured midfielders. Gallagher, Sarr, Bissouma, Palhinha should be pressing everywhere in midfield, harrying and winning the ball back higher up the pitch, then getting the ball straight to the forwards before the opposition defence resets. They then need to bust a gut to get in the box. Nothing fancy, they are incapable of that. Win the ball then swarm forward in support.

At the moment we are sitting off, surrendering midfield and letting the opposition play their game.

I don't think this set of players care enough to put the effort in though.
 
They’re all under contract though and unless they’ve relegation clauses in their contracts they are stuck with us and them. They need to be reminded of that by the owners. That if we go down it will be made as hard as we possibly can for them to leave. I suspect that would focus a few minds.
You don't understand. All the contract is good for is ensuring we get a fee for their services. That is it. These players are not dropping down to the Championship. They will withdraw services and yes we can fine them and stop paying them but no point. If any player is determined to leave, then they will leave. There is zero point in keeping an unhappy player.
 
This is unprecedented though, a Club as rich as ours has never been relegated, people may point to Leeds however they were financially fucked, I'm not saying we are going to keep everyone however surely the aim would be to just steam roller the championship next year by having a better squad then everyone else, come to think of it, if that is the plan then maybe we are best off getting rid of half these cunts as they aren't even Champo standard!
We couldn't fucking steamroll the girls south west district U12 league with this lot. You've seen this petulant lot down tools for two season and you want to keep them around. They can all fuck off. The lot of them.
 
There were plenty of us who were very worried we hadn't solved any of the problems that were apparent during the previous season's injury crisis. No passing and no quality in strength or depth.

It was a better window than the previous one though. That's where this relegation stems from.

Threat of relegation, but however most people view it,this squad should bot be where it precariously sits.

I don't really care that in hindsight, posters are now saying the squad is sh!t.

It's not the best, but bottom 5 is an utter disgrace and too many have done poor jobs to date.

Period.
 
We are not a charity. Once Romero and VDV and the rest are gone for £100-200m then clubs have to pay. Vuskovic is the best U21 CB there is, we helped him massively loaning him to Belgium and Germany. He will go if Bayern offer £100m but unless we get an offer like that there is simply no reason to sell.
He will not play for us in the Championship. I can't believe how people don't see this.
 
I can honestly say i'd rather support a team of Byfield, Vuskovic, Phillips, Souza, Gray, Bergvall, Moore, Donley, Williams-Barnett, Lankshear in the championship then watch another season of Porro, Spence, Romero and Bentancur act like their shit dont stink plodding around the arse end of the prem.

Just want to feel passionate about the team again from a group that actually want to be here. Get some identity back.
 
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