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Management Relegation

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Do you think we'll stay up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 184 40.1%
  • No

    Votes: 275 59.9%

  • Total voters
    459
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I suspect it will depends what offers we get for players. Obviously we'd all like to keep Archie Gray, for example, but if we get a big offer for him but nobody wants Sarr, we'll probably sell Gray. We'd all like to keep Vuskovic but his stock is so high right now that we might feel that selling him is inevitable.
And whether the players stir up in the background for a move.

Unlike our rivals, our squad is made up of internationals.
This break, we have Xavi, VdV, Romero, Porro, Solanke, Spence, Sarr, Danso, Dragusin, Bergvall, RKM, Tel and Gray away.
If Tudor comes back, or gets replaced, the break doesn't help much. Nobody will be around to benefit from more time/training.

WHU have Bowen, Diouf, Hermansen, Soucek, Fernandes, Mavropanos, Lamadrid?, - 6 players, some not starters, Vs 13 away. And they're settled and playing as well as they can. We need massive amounts of work.

I'm actually a bit pissed some of our internationals didn't decline the "opportunity" tbh.
I saw in the news yesterday a bunch of United players withdrew "due to injury"
Been doing that for nearly 40 years at United.
We send them away with a blessing, sometimes to get injured and never play again.
 
I’ve been fearing relegation since Jan - but I think we might pinch a win at Sunderland - and yes I am a mad bastard
Don't do it to yourself mate. If this lot can't deliver at home when they have a parade of fans and a 6 point fixture against Forest who were in the shit as bad as us, then the chances of them getting anything from Sunderland at their place is next to nothing. They're plainly not up for it.
 
Much as he's a self serving bellend, Sherwood is on the money with his "plan to stay up"

Simplify it.
Stop fucking around.

Vicario
Porro Romero VdV Udogie
Gray Bergvall
RKM Xavi Tel
Richarlison

Keeper
Solanke
Gallagher
Dragusin
Spence
Souza
Palinha
Sarr
Academy player

The last game, we could have had that.
The next game we could add Kudus into the mix.

But nah, fuck it, let's have a back 3 that changes to a 4, no one who can pass straight, etc etc. then change it after conceding despite being on top anyway.

Put everyone in their best position, use your subs properly and do it to maintain fitness over 90 minutes even when it's going well. Keep the players happy and results will come.
That's all we need and all we can do now.
But no. Let's chop, change, over complicate, confuse ourselves and just make endless self inflicted mistakes as a result.
 
And whether the players stir up in the background for a move.

Unlike our rivals, our squad is made up of internationals.
This break, we have Xavi, VdV, Romero, Porro, Solanke, Spence, Sarr, Danso, Dragusin, Bergvall, RKM, Tel and Gray away.
If Tudor comes back, or gets replaced, the break doesn't help much. Nobody will be around to benefit from more time/training.

WHU have Bowen, Diouf, Hermansen, Soucek, Fernandes, Mavropanos, Lamadrid?, - 6 players, some not starters, Vs 13 away. And they're settled and playing as well as they can. We need massive amounts of work.

I'm actually a bit pissed some of our internationals didn't decline the "opportunity" tbh.
I saw in the news yesterday a bunch of United players withdrew "due to injury"
Been doing that for nearly 40 years at United.
We send them away with a blessing, sometimes to get injured and never play again.
6 Woolwich withdrawn too...hopefully all Sunderland's 13 internationals get worn out 😆
 
Uncharted territory

No club as big as spurs has ever been relegated. Newcastle, villa, ham, Leeds..all big clubs but financially we operate in a different dimension to what they had when relegated.
So it's really quite bizarre and unknowable what will happen to us next season in championship

If I had to give an educated guess, I'd probably say it would more closely mirror Newcastles championship season in 2016

Sold off a handful of their big names like sissoko to us :harrylol:
But kept alot of their players and Still signed a few new players .

Straight back up well clear of playoffs
Yeah we've got a whole summer of superstars I've never heard of filling our stadium and coffers!
Perhaps we can arrange with the Football League to play our games when we can't get pop acts, boxing, rugby and NFL to fill it?
 
Much as he's a self serving bellend, Sherwood is on the money with his "plan to stay up"

Simplify it.
Stop fucking around.

Vicario
Porro Romero VdV Udogie
Gray Bergvall
RKM Xavi Tel
Richarlison

Keeper
Solanke
Gallagher
Dragusin
Spence
Souza
Palinha
Sarr
Academy player

The last game, we could have had that.
The next game we could add Kudus into the mix.

But nah, fuck it, let's have a back 3 that changes to a 4, no one who can pass straight, etc etc. then change it after conceding despite being on top anyway.

Put everyone in their best position, use your subs properly and do it to maintain fitness over 90 minutes even when it's going well. Keep the players happy and results will come.
That's all we need and all we can do now.
But no. Let's chop, change, over complicate, confuse ourselves and just make endless self inflicted mistakes as a result.

There is no steel in that midfield.
 
I think we'd come back up. Even with selling a ton of players we'd have a better squad and much better resources than anyone else. Look at how well the likes of Philips and Lankshear etc are doing in poor champo teams. Look at how shite Southampton were last season in the prem and the first third of this season and they will still make the play offs. We would need a decent manager which given our track record might not be easy but if we got that think we'd be ok. Think Newcastle is a good example given our likely relegation sort of mirrors their decline in 2015.
We’d need to bin off Lange in order to get our recruitment right.
 
Much as he's a self serving bellend, Sherwood is on the money with his "plan to stay up"
he gets absolute pelters here from people who refuse to credit what he managed after taking over from AVBs fucking fiasco half season.

kept it simple
selected the best players available
showed more tactical nous than I thought he had
won a really good amount of pts
over 38 matches wouldve been 72.5 not shabby at all

I'd be happy with him, ditto H, and using Ben Davies as assistant in either case
 
Part of me wonders how bad it would actually be.

Stack the squad with academy kids, build a bond and identity with the fans again. Try and get a real singing section going again, cheaper tickets…

There’s teams in the Championship that play great football too ie Borough…

If you offered to me like that and guarantee new owners, I’m not sure I’d see it as a disaster if it meant coming back stronger.

I don’t want to go down, and I don’t think we will in the end either but I can’t lie and say the Premier League is a rewarding experience as a Spurs fan. If anything, it’s just a case of waiting to see which new way you can get fucked over every week
I would take relegation in a heartbeat if it meant immediately getting new owners. We all know that we'll never have long term success with ENIC in charge, so I'd much rather take the hit and embarrassment in the short term if it meant the possibility of long term success.
 
Sorry for Igors loss of course but if we'd kept him see maybe one point and inevitable relegation

If we were guaranteed to come straight back up, then a season in Champo would be palatable, fun even. but of course it never is. We almost blew it in 78
 
Newcastle when they went down kept about 50% of their seniors, Villa on the other hand had a total clear out. Newcastle came straight back and Villa didn’t. Lesson is we can lose Romero, VDC, Udogie, Porro and Vicario but we will need to keep Bergvall, Gray, , Maddison, Danso etc. people posting championship squads with a team not including Danso and Bergvall are basically saying the club has decided to willingly stay in the Championship and will fire sale to bring in £300-400m and not give a shit.

If the club has any sense they will sell the failing seniors like Romero and VDV, keep the kids and good pros like Danso.
We'll also keep Maddison/Deki because no club that can afford their wages is going to take a chance on them following serious injuries.
 
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