Management Relegation

[Timberwolf]

We didn't try that under Frank. I don't even know what it was, but it wasn't that. We didn't play on the break. We either passed to Kudus or hoofed it up.

We have Danso and Drag who can play in that system. And just being hard to beat instead of leaving ourselves open constantly, like today, gives us a far better chance of staying up. Playing this football with Conor Gallagher and Palinha on the pitch at the same time is a complete juxtaposition.

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Thing is all our forwards are shite on the break too. Our best players for that type of system were Son, Johnson and maybe Odobert? All the guys we have left just don't seem capable of playing any kind of coherent style or system tbh.

Has felt like the writing's on the wall for a while - I don't think De Zerbi was the answer short term but given the composition of what's left of the squad and our broken mentality, I think almost any manager woud've failed

The rot runs too deep.

 

[Tomo]

Should've been a backs to the wall manager. Absorb pressure and try get points on the break. Hideous, but it was the only chance we had at staying up.

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Backs to the wall, we tried Frank sit deep and break and it didn’t work. I just think it’s almost fate at this point.

 

[Tomo]

sadly it feels to me that there are many on here thinking that relgation is nothing its a joke a laugh, well i was around last time, yes we were good up until the easter, but from then on we just got up with a draw on the last game at Southampton (who were also up) where it felt as if the players had agreed they won't shoot at each others goal( as a draw suited both of us)
Lots appear not to care that we will be down, Other teams will be laughing at us, If you think that ENIC have the brains to get us backup think again, look at who they are empolying in vinai & Lange, At east Levy would have seen the danger back in Oct/Nov and made changes then

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While I agree to some extent I think our path to the Championship is alot more than this season. The total lack of a football philosophy at the club and proper recruitment goes all the way back to the 18 months without signings maybe further. Levy might have sacked Frank earlier and saved us but it really would have been the arsonist putting out the fire. Levy and ENIC have to go, 25 years and no football strategy is unacceptable.

Lange buying kids and hiring Frank is just the epitome of how poorly this club is run.

 

[Tio Martin]

Thing is I think it could get a lot worse. Check out Schalke, big German club.

They had a terrible 2020/21 season which saw them go nearly a year without winning a game on their way to relegation after decades in the top flight.

They came back up for a season but otherwise haven't really recovered. No reason something like this can't happen to us given the way we are run... minus the promotion.

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Schalke were also in a deep financial crisis and had massive debts. They routinely had to sell their best players every summer while in the second division just to stay above water.

Our financial situation isn't nearly as bad, especially considering we'll have a ton of sales this summer. That should keep us stable for a few years, as will everyone taking a 50% paycut in the Championship. Obviously we'll be in trouble if we don't come up in the next 1-3 years or get new ownership.

 

[Son Spurs]

sadly it feels to me that there are many on here thinking that relgation is nothing its a joke a laugh, well i was around last time, yes we were good up until the easter, but from then on we just got up with a draw on the last game at Southampton (who were also up) where it felt as if the players had agreed they won't shoot at each others goal( as a draw suited both of us)
Lots appear not to care that we will be down, Other teams will be laughing at us, If you think that ENIC have the brains to get us backup think again, look at who they are empolying in vinai & Lange, At east Levy would have seen the danger back in Oct/Nov and made changes then

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I don’t think any spurs fan is finding joy in us getting relegated but at the same time what can we do?

It’s part of football and the club is just going to need to take their medicine. The worst teams go down and our players and board getting what they gave in. They deserve to be laughed at by their own supporters and the footballing world at large.

For us yes it will be shit but ultimately the relegation won’t be a reflection of our character, despite our own fucking cunt players trying to blame us for their non performances early in the season. We’re not the ones putting in non performances in our non job where get paid hundreds of thousands to play and manage a football team.

Also the Levy revisionism can get in the bin. He hired these cunts, and regardless of whether or not he would have seen the danger I wouldn’t have backed him to fix it. We’ve been nosediving under him and the guy has been completely washed for about 10 years now. This is his relegation and the only shame I see in getting rid of him in September is that the cunt isn’t here to reap what he sowed.

 

[kingdawson]

You know what, in hidsight i'm of the opinion that Frank wouldn't have got us relegated tbh.

We would have found a way to sneak a couple of away wins imo. It's done now and no point saying "what if" but I genuinely think the players are pretty awful and have given up but Franks system imo would have got us a win yesterday for sure and probably Fulham as well imo.

 

[rusty]

While I agree to some extent I think our path to the Championship is alot more than this season. The total lack of a football philosophy at the club and proper recruitment goes all the way back to the 18 months without signings maybe further. Levy might have sacked Frank earlier and saved us but it really would have been the arsonist putting out the fire. Levy and ENIC have to go, 25 years and no football strategy is unacceptable.

Lange buying kids and hiring Frank is just the epitome of how poorly this club is run.

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Agree Levy wouldkeep us up, But nothing would change, but going down nothing will change ENIC will not sell so they will keep doing the same thing as the last 25 yrs

 

[simon j]

We are now in the west brom , Leicester city territory of great escapes. We need 3 wins out of 6!!!!
We have managed 2 in 23 ffs!!!!

Stick a fork in us we are done.

 

[For better or worse]

Relegation isn't a total negative. Because Spurs have been so cheated by the corrupt Premier League refs, they will absoultely dominate the Championship, I reckon 120 points!! Imagine watching a team that has been robbed far superior in a lower league destroying Championship teams every week! That's what I believe Spurs would do.

Secondly, the club will lose value on share price and become a much better purchase for some megarich billionaire to pick up Spurs for a bargain price and the investment will follow. They would also sack the former 14 years at Arsenil, new CEO of Tottenham since 2025 Indian Vinai Venkatesham a traitor running this club! The fact the board have not complained about the amount of bad decisions Spurs get is proof they have betrayed the club.

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It’s a nice thought but nobody who is a serious investor sells their stock after a sudden drop, unless it’s a total write-off. They will know the value will come back if they hold on a few more years. This is more likely to mean they hang around longer. The money in football continues to rise as fans get rinsed, they might have to inject a little personal wealth, but they will get it back

 

[Murphy]

Maddison's 2nd relegation, although he didn't contribute this time.

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You could argue he didn’t contribute that time either that’s why Leicester went down

 

[Tomo]

Agree Levy wouldkeep us up, But nothing would change, but going down nothing will change ENIC will not sell so they will keep doing the same thing as the last 25 yrs

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Issue they have though is they now have to inject £100-200m cash. The alternative is a fire sale and staying in the Championship and losing a much greater amount of cash. So they either invest, lose money, sell.

Staying in the Championship which a fire sale might cause is probably the biggest money loser.

 

[WillWilliams]

sadly it feels to me that there are many on here thinking that relgation is nothing its a joke a laugh, well i was around last time, yes we were good up until the easter, but from then on we just got up with a draw on the last game at Southampton (who were also up) where it felt as if the players had agreed they won't shoot at each others goal( as a draw suited both of us)
Lots appear not to care that we will be down, Other teams will be laughing at us, If you think that ENIC have the brains to get us backup think again, look at who they are empolying in vinai & Lange, At east Levy would have seen the danger back in Oct/Nov and made changes then

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When I was younger I would have cared a lot more. Now?

I’ve lost so much empathy for the club the players etc I won’t be that bothered.
If we go down I will go and watch the odd game if they sort out their pricing.
But generally I spend my “football” money and time on my dog and short breaks these days.
So it’s just not having the same impact it would have once upon a time.

Going to see people like Roberts, Perryman and Ossie talk about their time at the club is always good. I feel that players like Dawson, Ledley and even O ‘Hara would have a similar feel for the club.

This current bunch? I’m not so sure. But I think the fans also have a lot of contempt and disdain for the players. So maybe it’s a circular thing.
These players have just won us a European cup, you’d think there would be more love for them.

Maybe it’s just modern football?

 

[CerealMaterial]

One of the biggest downsides of us getting relegated is that we’ll be stuck with ENIC for a few more years. There’s no chance they’ll sell up at a cut rate, they’ll take their chances and hope they get us back up the next season.

This in itself is a very dangerous punt as they’ve proven time and time again to be inept at their jobs. They’ve sleep walked into getting relegated and can genuinely see them doing the same in the championship, it won’t be back to back relegation, but missing out on automatic promotion or play offs.

Ideally this sparks a mini revolution where they do a mass clear out of players and backroom staff, we fully imbed some of these promising young kids we’ve had around on loan for years and come back up next year with a young and hungry side, just really can’t see it.

 

[Timberwolf]

When I was younger I would have cared a lot more. Now?

I’ve lost so much empathy for the club the players etc I won’t be that bothered.
If we go down I will go and watch the odd game if they sort out their pricing.
But generally I spend my “football” money and time on my dog and short breaks these days.
So it’s just not having the same impact it would have once upon a time.

Going to see people like Roberts, Perryman and Ossie talk about their time at the club is always good. I feel that players like Dawson, Ledley and even O ‘Hara would have a similar feel for the club.

This current bunch? I’m not so sure. But I think the fans also have a lot of contempt and disdain for the players. So maybe it’s a circular thing.
These players have just won us a European cup, you’d think there would be more love for them.

Maybe it’s just modern football?

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Naturally everyone loved the players last summer but I think the fact they'd had our worst league season in generations meant any fondness for the squad was quite fragile.

Many fans had spent 4-5 months slagging off the players prior to the Europa final so when we won it was like a brief oasis of love and appreciation before we wandered back into the desert of abject misery under Frank.

That said, football fans/clubs are notoriously fickle and memories are short. Very little love for Slot this season at Pool and Ranieri didn't even last the season after the most mental league win in living memory.

 

[Tomo]

When I was younger I would have cared a lot more. Now?

I’ve lost so much empathy for the club the players etc I won’t be that bothered.
If we go down I will go and watch the odd game if they sort out their pricing.
But generally I spend my “football” money and time on my dog and short breaks these days.
So it’s just not having the same impact it would have once upon a time.

Going to see people like Roberts, Perryman and Ossie talk about their time at the club is always good. I feel that players like Dawson, Ledley and even O ‘Hara would have a similar feel for the club.

This current bunch? I’m not so sure. But I think the fans also have a lot of contempt and disdain for the players. So maybe it’s a circular thing.
These players have just won us a European cup, you’d think there would be more love for them.

Maybe it’s just modern football?

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Partly I think we need to start using the kids. Players that might have some connection to the club and the few seniors who are professional.

Byfield, Moore, Devine, Lankshear, Williams-Barnett, Philips will all get game time probably next season. And they will actually care about the club.

 

[rolling boh]

sadly it feels to me that there are many on here thinking that relgation is nothing its a joke a laugh, well i was around last time, yes we were good up until the easter, but from then on we just got up with a draw on the last game at Southampton (who were also up) where it felt as if the players had agreed they won't shoot at each others goal( as a draw suited both of us)
Lots appear not to care that we will be down, Other teams will be laughing at us, If you think that ENIC have the brains to get us backup think again, look at who they are empolying in vinai & Lange, At east Levy would have seen the danger back in Oct/Nov and made changes then

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Was young enough the last time maybe you were the same but is this team much worse than the last time we went down ?

 

[WillWilliams]

Partly I think we need to start using the kids. Players that might have some connection to the club and the few seniors who are professional.

Byfield, Moore, Devine, Lankshear, Williams-Barnett, Philips will all get game time probably next season. And they will actually care about the club.

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100% agree they should have more “feel” for the club. And hopefully pride in the badge.

Could be a disaster though playing so many youngsters in a notoriously tough league.
Need some honest, strong older heads in that division.

 

[N17n17]

I do.

Our players are a higher quality than Forest, Spam, and Leeds. RDZ is a better manager than they have. At minimum, if we match Leeds' pace and beat them in a few weeks, they'll be below us.

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Your understanding of football is so basic that I think you got into football five minutes ago. It doesn't matter if they are higher quality if they are piss poor as a team, the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. And right now all those clubs have a better 'team' than we do.

 

[Timberwolf]

sadly it feels to me that there are many on here thinking that relgation is nothing its a joke a laugh, well i was around last time, yes we were good up until the easter, but from then on we just got up with a draw on the last game at Southampton (who were also up) where it felt as if the players had agreed they won't shoot at each others goal( as a draw suited both of us)
Lots appear not to care that we will be down, Other teams will be laughing at us, If you think that ENIC have the brains to get us backup think again, look at who they are empolying in vinai & Lange, At east Levy would have seen the danger back in Oct/Nov and made changes then

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It's mostly gallows humour, apathy after 2 year of defeats or simply grasping for positives. I don't think anyone on here is genuinely happy about us going down at all - people are just processing it in different ways.

Personally I've accepted that relegation is extremely likely and have made peace with it. I can count on one hand the number of league games I've enjoyed in the past year, and the year prior wasn't much better. Obviously I want Spurs to do well and compete at the top but football is meant to be fun - an escape - and maybe building a new team with some academy players and talented kids would actually bring some joy back. Oh and actually winning some bloody games.

I'd prefer we stay up of course but I don't think there's anything wrong with searching for positives. Without that it's just pure despair.

 

[rusty]

When I was younger I would have cared a lot more. Now?

I’ve lost so much empathy for the club the players etc I won’t be that bothered.
If we go down I will go and watch the odd game if they sort out their pricing.
But generally I spend my “football” money and time on my dog and short breaks these days.
So it’s just not having the same impact it would have once upon a time.

Going to see people like Roberts, Perryman and Ossie talk about their time at the club is always good. I feel that players like Dawson, Ledley and even O ‘Hara would have a similar feel for the club.

This current bunch? I’m not so sure. But I think the fans also have a lot of contempt and disdain for the players. So maybe it’s a circular thing.
These players have just won us a European cup, you’d think there would be more love for them.

Maybe it’s just modern football?

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God that is sad, But I think you are right