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Management Relegation

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Do you think we'll stay up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 184 40.1%

  • No

    Votes: 275 59.9%
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koko619 said:
i ask grok
what do you think will tottenham stay in the premier league ?
Tottenham are in serious danger of relegation this season (2025/26), and right now I'd say their chances of staying in the Premier League are probably around 40-45% at best. It's a shocking situation for a club that's been a regular top-half (and often European) side for years.


Current situation (as of late April 2026)​


  • Tottenham sit 18th in the table with 34 points from 34 games (roughly 8 wins, 10 draws, 16 losses).
  • They're 2 points behind 17th-placed West Ham (36 points), while Leeds (40) and Nottingham Forest (39) look relatively safer.
  • Wolves and Burnley are already down, so only one more spot remains.
  • They've been winless in the league throughout 2026 until a very recent 1-0 win over already-relegated Wolves — their first victory of the calendar year. That snapped a horrible run (something like 0 wins in 14+ games before), but it wasn't enough to lift them out of the drop zone.

This is historically bad for Spurs — the first time in decades they've been in the relegation zone this late in a season.


Why it's gone so wrong​


  • Managerial chaos: They've chopped and changed bosses mid-season (Thomas Frank → Igor Tudor as interim → Roberto De Zerbi in late March). De Zerbi is a good coach with an attacking style, but he's had very little time to implement anything, and results haven't turned around quickly.
  • Dreadful form: Almost no wins in 2026, poor goal difference, and injuries hitting key players (e.g. recent mentions of Solanke and others).
  • They've dropped from being a non-factor in the relegation talk to being the favourites for the drop in betting markets (often around 8/11 or -140 odds) and models like Opta giving them ~55-60% chance of going down.

Will they stay up?​


It's going to be tight with only a handful of games left. Their remaining fixtures include some tough ones (e.g. trips to Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton), plus a few more winnable ones. A couple of wins could see them leapfrog West Ham, especially if the Hammers slip up.


My honest take:


  • They have the squad quality on paper to stay up — better than most of the bottom sides in normal circumstances.
  • But momentum, confidence, and the table position are against them. Relegation battles are often decided by mentality and grinding out results, and Spurs have looked fragile for months.
  • I'd lean towards them going down (maybe 55-60% likelihood), but football is chaotic — one good run or a rival collapsing and they could scrape 17th. De Zerbi might spark something, and that Wolves win could be a psychological boost.

If you're a Spurs fan, it's proper nervous time. The club has the resources to bounce back from the Championship (they'd be one of the strongest sides there), but dropping out would be a massive humiliation and financial hit. What do you reckon — do you think they'll survive, or is it curtains?
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Analyze Tottenham's remaining fixtures

Here's a clear breakdown of Tottenham's remaining Premier League fixtures as of April 25, 2026 (after their 1-0 win at Wolves today). They have four games left in the 2025/26 season.⁠ESPN

Tottenham's Remaining Fixtures​

  • Sunday, May 3 — Aston Villa (A) — Kick-off ~14:00/19:00 (times may vary slightly by source)
  • Monday, May 11 — Leeds United (H) — Kick-off ~15:00/20:00
  • Sunday, May 17 — Chelsea (A) — Kick-off ~10:00/15:00
  • Sunday, May 24 — Everton (H) — Kick-off ~11:00/16:00
These are the final four matches (likely matchweeks 35–38).⁠ESPN

Fixture Difficulty Analysis​

  • Aston Villa (away): Very tough. Villa are currently pushing for a top-4/5 spot (around 4th–5th in recent tables with strong home form). They have quality across the pitch and will be motivated for European qualification. Historically a poor venue for Spurs in recent years. Expected: Low chance of points (probably 20–25% win probability at best under current form).
  • Leeds United (home): The most winnable on paper. Leeds are in the relegation mix but have shown fight. At home, Spurs should target three points here — especially if De Zerbi's attacking style clicks. However, Leeds will see this as a huge six-pointer if they're still battling to stay up. Key game for survival hopes.
  • Chelsea (away): Extremely difficult. Chelsea are a top-side side (often in top 4–6 contention) with high-quality players and strong home record at Stamford Bridge. Spurs have struggled there in recent seasons. Expected: Very low points return.
  • Everton (home): Potentially winnable, but tricky. Everton are usually a solid mid-table side with a physical, organized approach (often hard to break down). At the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, Spurs should have the edge, but Everton could still be fighting for points or playing with nothing to lose. Another must-not-lose fixture.
Overall run-in rating: Brutal. Only one truly favourable home game against a fellow struggler (Leeds). Two very tough away trips against established top-half sides (Villa and Chelsea), plus a home game against a well-drilled Everton. No "easy" games left — this is a nightmare scenario for a side already low on confidence and winless for most of 2026 until today.

Relegation Context​

Tottenham currently sit 18th with around 34 points (2 behind 17th-placed West Ham on 36). Leeds (higher up, possibly ~40) and Nottingham Forest look safer, while Wolves and Burnley are already down.⁠Premierleague

  • They need results quickly — realistically at least 4–7 points from these four games to have a realistic chance of overtaking West Ham (who have their own tough run: Brentford A, Woolwich H, Newcastle A, Leeds H).
  • Opta-style models recently gave Spurs ~55–60% chance of relegation even before these fixtures; a tough run like this doesn't help.⁠Si
  • Positives: Home advantage vs Leeds and Everton; the Wolves win might provide a tiny morale boost. Injuries (e.g. mentions of Solanke) remain a concern.
  • Negatives: Poor recent form, managerial instability (now under De Zerbi), and the psychological weight of being in the bottom three this late.
My assessment: Spurs need to win at least two of these (ideally Leeds + one other) and pick up a draw or two elsewhere. Anything less and they're almost certainly down. The Villa and Chelsea games look like likely losses, making the Leeds and Everton matches absolute musts for points.

Football is unpredictable — a couple of early goals or a rival slip could change everything — but on paper this is as difficult a run-in as any relegation-threatened side could face. If you're a Spurs fan, these next weeks will be stressful.

What do you think — which of these games gives you the most hope for points? Or are you bracing for the drop?
 
koko619 said:
If you're a Spurs fan, it's proper nervous time. The club has the resources to bounce back from the Championship (they'd be one of the strongest sides there), but dropping out would be a massive humiliation and financial hit. What do you reckon — do you think they'll survive, or is it curtains?
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This word is what scares the shit out of me in this relegation scrap we are in. Especially coming from winning the Europa League just one year ago. Nothing else matters but this humiliation. I feel so disgusted as fan, why wouldn't the executives feel that? I'm so intrigued.
 
koko619 said:
i ask grok
what do you think will tottenham stay in the premier league ?
Tottenham are in serious danger of relegation this season (2025/26), and right now I'd say their chances of staying in the Premier League are probably around 40-45% at best. It's a shocking situation for a club that's been a regular top-half (and often European) side for years.


Current situation (as of late April 2026)​


  • Tottenham sit 18th in the table with 34 points from 34 games (roughly 8 wins, 10 draws, 16 losses).
  • They're 2 points behind 17th-placed West Ham (36 points), while Leeds (40) and Nottingham Forest (39) look relatively safer.
  • Wolves and Burnley are already down, so only one more spot remains.
  • They've been winless in the league throughout 2026 until a very recent 1-0 win over already-relegated Wolves — their first victory of the calendar year. That snapped a horrible run (something like 0 wins in 14+ games before), but it wasn't enough to lift them out of the drop zone.

This is historically bad for Spurs — the first time in decades they've been in the relegation zone this late in a season.


Why it's gone so wrong​


  • Managerial chaos: They've chopped and changed bosses mid-season (Thomas Frank → Igor Tudor as interim → Roberto De Zerbi in late March). De Zerbi is a good coach with an attacking style, but he's had very little time to implement anything, and results haven't turned around quickly.
  • Dreadful form: Almost no wins in 2026, poor goal difference, and injuries hitting key players (e.g. recent mentions of Solanke and others).
  • They've dropped from being a non-factor in the relegation talk to being the favourites for the drop in betting markets (often around 8/11 or -140 odds) and models like Opta giving them ~55-60% chance of going down.

Will they stay up?​


It's going to be tight with only a handful of games left. Their remaining fixtures include some tough ones (e.g. trips to Aston Villa, Chelsea, Everton), plus a few more winnable ones. A couple of wins could see them leapfrog West Ham, especially if the Hammers slip up.


My honest take:


  • They have the squad quality on paper to stay up — better than most of the bottom sides in normal circumstances.
  • But momentum, confidence, and the table position are against them. Relegation battles are often decided by mentality and grinding out results, and Spurs have looked fragile for months.
  • I'd lean towards them going down (maybe 55-60% likelihood), but football is chaotic — one good run or a rival collapsing and they could scrape 17th. De Zerbi might spark something, and that Wolves win could be a psychological boost.

If you're a Spurs fan, it's proper nervous time. The club has the resources to bounce back from the Championship (they'd be one of the strongest sides there), but dropping out would be a massive humiliation and financial hit. What do you reckon — do you think they'll survive, or is it curtains?
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"better than most of the bottom sides in normal circumstances."


Hard disagree. We're absolutely pony in practically all aspects apart from CB.
 
Kane's left said:
"better than most of the bottom sides in normal circumstances."


Hard disagree. We're absolutely pony in practically all aspects apart from CB.
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i mean i just grok because im bored and i donk know ,
in the end nothing any expert or supercomputer or ai says matters
all that matters is what we gonna do in the next game and then in the next game

the only positive i see right now is that we won the game today (last win vs wolves was 8/20/2022)
now its villa which can go anything from 5-0 trashing to 0-5 losing
Here are the last 10 competitive matches between Tottenham Hotspur and Aston Villa (including Premier League and cups), listed in reverse chronological order (most recent first):


  • 10 Jan 2026 – FA Cup R3: Tottenham 1–2 Aston Villa
  • 19 Oct 2025 – Premier League: Tottenham 1–2 Aston Villa
  • 16 May 2025 – Premier League: Aston Villa 2–0 Tottenham
  • 9 Feb 2025 – FA Cup: Aston Villa 2–1 Tottenham
  • 3 Nov 2024 – Premier League: Tottenham 4–1 Aston Villa ← Tottenham's most recent win
  • 10 Mar 2024 – Premier League: Aston Villa 0–4 Tottenham
  • 26 Nov 2023 – Premier League: Tottenham 1–2 Aston Villa
 
koko619 said:
i mean i just grok because im bored and i donk know ,
in the end nothing any expert or supercomputer or ai says matters
all that matters is what we gonna do in the next game and then in the next game

the only positive i see right now is that we won the game today (last win vs wolves was 8/20/2022)
now its villa which can go anything from 5-0 trashing to 0-5 losing
Here are the last 10 competitive matches between Tottenham Hotspur and Aston Villa (including Premier League and cups), listed in reverse chronological order (most recent first):


  • 10 Jan 2026 – FA Cup R3: Tottenham 1–2 Aston Villa
  • 19 Oct 2025 – Premier League: Tottenham 1–2 Aston Villa
  • 16 May 2025 – Premier League: Aston Villa 2–0 Tottenham
  • 9 Feb 2025 – FA Cup: Aston Villa 2–1 Tottenham
  • 3 Nov 2024 – Premier League: Tottenham 4–1 Aston Villa ← Tottenham's most recent win
  • 10 Mar 2024 – Premier League: Aston Villa 0–4 Tottenham
  • 26 Nov 2023 – Premier League: Tottenham 1–2 Aston Villa
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Notice the losses its with this team yet we have injuries and shit forward line and expect 3 points
 
glacierSpurs said:
This word is what scares the shit out of me in this relegation scrap we are in. Especially coming from winning the Europa League just one year ago. Nothing else matters but this humiliation. I feel so disgusted as fan, why wouldn't the executives feel that? I'm so intrigued.
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Their mindset, their remuneration, the other football teams they actually support ; all spring to mind .

Probably loads of other reasons as well .

F-ck em .
 
koko619 said:
i mean i just grok because im bored and i donk know ,
in the end nothing any expert or supercomputer or ai says matters
all that matters is what we gonna do in the next game and then in the next game

the only positive i see right now is that we won the game today (last win vs wolves was 8/20/2022)
now its villa which can go anything from 5-0 trashing to 0-5 losing
Here are the last 10 competitive matches between Tottenham Hotspur and Aston Villa (including Premier League and cups), listed in reverse chronological order (most recent first):


  • 10 Jan 2026 – FA Cup R3: Tottenham 1–2 Aston Villa
  • 19 Oct 2025 – Premier League: Tottenham 1–2 Aston Villa
  • 16 May 2025 – Premier League: Aston Villa 2–0 Tottenham
  • 9 Feb 2025 – FA Cup: Aston Villa 2–1 Tottenham
  • 3 Nov 2024 – Premier League: Tottenham 4–1 Aston Villa ← Tottenham's most recent win
  • 10 Mar 2024 – Premier League: Aston Villa 0–4 Tottenham
  • 26 Nov 2023 – Premier League: Tottenham 1–2 Aston Villa
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My man, I love a bit of Grok. But listing our last 10 games against villa is pointless as we were a different team with a different manager under different circumstances. #justsayin

Losing Simon's today was a BIG loss. Who are we going to play in the number 10? Conor fuggin Gallagher maybe?!? :dawsonlol: I dread to think. But, the impossible can still happen. No point ruling us out for obvious reasons but it's going to be a very painful watch. And I'm here for every minute of it like a true masochist. :levylol:
 
We have to beat villa like the wolves game

We have to go there and fight them attack for attack because sitting back is gonna do fuck all

If we lose so be it i need to see more fight.

West ham will at least draw with brentford
 
Kane's left said:
My man, I love a bit of Grok. But listing our last 10 games against villa is pointless as we were a different team with a different manager under different circumstances. #justsayin

Losing Simon's today was a BIG loss. Who are we going to play in the number 10? Conor fuggin Gallagher maybe?!? I dread to think. But, the impossible can still happen. No point ruling us out for obvious reasons but it's going to be a very painful watch. And I'm here for every minute of it like a true masochist.
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I expected to be much more positive if we won today but looking at the remaining fixtures and also looking at West Ham 's form ,I just don't see us getting above them , the game today was our most winnable by the looks of things .Really needed Everton to hold out for the point today to give us a huge boost by getting out of the drop zone even if only just .Hopefully we somehow do it .
 
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