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Management Relegation

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Do you think we'll stay up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 184 40.1%
  • No

    Votes: 275 59.9%

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Just had an awful thought. Imagine if City don't beat Brentford on Saturday? Woolwich could drop points to West Ham and still win the league.

Its massive that City beat Brentford this Saturday. Its as big as any result we've needed all season. We can't have a scenario where Woolwich win the league and we go down. It has to be one or the other. We need City win on Saturday and then it doesn't matter what happens in the West Ham Woolwich game

Yes.

First thought when they drew, which I wrote. City need to beat Brentford. I am sure the late goal by Doku will have them fired-up for Saturday.

Make that lot win it, as opposed to losing it.
 
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But THFC is owned by ENIC, or Tavistock or whatever the relevant ENIC-owned entity is.

ENIC can choose exactly what they sell, and when they sell, as long as they have a willing buyer.

They could retain the stadium, though that would generate a huge discount on the value of the footballing operations.
Tottenham owns the stadium through a subsidiary, so ENIC couldn’t simply extract it — they’d effectively have to buy it from Tottenham Hotspur Ltd. Even then, it would be a completely illogical move. A football stadium without a guaranteed tenant quickly becomes a white elephant.

Take West Ham as a contrasting example. Because they don’t own their stadium, their value is far more fragile — particularly if they were to be relegated, and even more so given the ongoing investment in their training ground.

The broader issue is that the current football ownership and financial model is fundamentally broken.
 
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We have an asset we own they have a rented athletics track - pretty simple to get.

It’s financed by bank loans - which we repay, at the end of that period we own it unencumbered. West Ham are renting forever.


The point was that we have the two shitest owners in the league, and that's hardly up for debate. Taking a loan to build a stadium doesn't make them good owners. The stadium wasn't built for us, it was built to line their pockets.
 
Tottenham owns the stadium through a subsidiary, so ENIC couldn’t simply extract it — they’d effectively have to buy it from Tottenham Hotspur Ltd. Even then, it would be a completely illogical move. A football stadium without a guaranteed tenant quickly becomes a white elephant.

Take West Ham as a contrasting example. Because they don’t own their stadium, their value is far more fragile — particularly if they were to be relegated, and even more so given the ongoing investment in their training ground.

The broader issue is that the current football ownership and financial model is fundamentally broken.
Who owns the subsidiary though? ENIC?

I agree it would be a completely illogic move, but I can't see any reason why, subject to the legal formalities, the ownership couldn't be split. Even if there are minority shareholders there, they may well be able to squeeze or drag them. It would be hugely value destructive, as you imply.
 
Who owns the subsidiary though? ENIC?

I agree it would be a completely illogic move, but I can't see any reason why, subject to the legal formalities, the ownership couldn't be split. Even if there are minority shareholders there, they may well be able to squeeze or drag them. It would be hugely value destructive, as you imply.
It cant that is not how levels of subsidaries work especially as Enic are registered in Bahamas. You cannot just transfer assets between different entities in an organisation you would transfer it to another part of the Tavistock group and leave the debt on Spurs when you sell the club.
 
100 pc.

The choice is simple:

would you rather Woolwich won the league and we stayed up. Or City won the league and we went down.

West Ham will fight all the way. We need another 3 point advantage this weekend.
I want as many points between us and Spam come the Chelsea match. Staying up is far more important than Woolwich not winning the league.

I would much rather go into the Chelsea match with a 4 point advantage (realistically 5 with GD) than a 3 (4 with GD) point advantage because it means anything other than a Spam win at Saudicastle results in them going down.
 
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We need Villa to bash up Forest tomorrow. They are getting too cocky.
Newcastle H Sunday May 10 2 pm.
Man United A Sunday May 17 12:30 pm
Bournemouth H Last game.



We needed Villa to bash up Forest and they did.
Newcastle H Sunday May 10, 2 pm.
Man United A Sunday May 17, 12:30 pm
Bournemouth H Last game.
 
We needed Villa to bash up Forest and they did.
Newcastle H Sunday May 10, 2 pm.
Man United A Sunday May 17, 12:30 pm
Bournemouth H Last game.

Unfortunately I think Forest are out of it as their form is just too good in the league. How much MGW can play must affect them looking at last night, even though I expected Villa to beat them. With the severity of that head injury he probably shouldn’t be playing at all, but you know football.

Who would have thought Newcastle would have such a deciding hand in things. Funny how the fixtures always fall though with one team playing the same relegation candidates. Always happens to one team.
 
Unfortunately I think Forest are out of it as their form is just too good in the league. How much MGW can play must affect them looking at last night, even though I expected Villa to beat them. With the severity of that head injury he probably shouldn’t be playing at all, but you know football.

Who would have thought Newcastle would have such a deciding hand in things. Funny how the fixtures always fall though with one team playing the same relegation candidates. Always happens to one team.
They should probably shut Gibbs White down for at least the next 2 games then assess things. If he did get another clash of heads he could be in a very serious condition. It would be irresponsible to play him.
 
Can we all agree not to credit Abonglahor with anything.
I have to turn the radio off when he's on. Especially when he forces that laugh out.
 
I'm gonna need a West Ham pummeling, 4-0. 5-0 or whatever - can't have this lot get any sort of confidence going into their last 2 fixtures, not even a goal - I need them dead and buried by the time we play Chelsea...couldn't give a toss about Woolwich winning the league, even if they draw they're still likely to win the league anyway.
 
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