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I just can’t see how we will score goals. Of the available players there is nobody who can pick a pass, nobody with pace, nobody who can dribble, nobody who can strike the ball with any venom.

It’s mad to think that players like Erik Lamela, Nacer Chadli and Lucas Moura would be our best players by an absolute mile if they were in our squad today.

Solanke, Tel, Xavi, Muani, Richarlison, they are all the same mediocre level. They would be on the bench for a team like Fulham yet they are starting-level players for us. That’s why we are getting relegated. Since the stadium opened we have gradually replaced all our special players with mediocre players, and all our mediocre players with shit players.

Maddison’s injury was the killer. By a mile the most talented player in the squad. Found it interesting when Olusesi came on and looked more comfortable than our senior players.
 
When the evidence says we are, in fact, shit.

Given the shocking revelation here that, out of hundreds and hundreds of PL players, we have only 2 that make the top 150 for successful passes, we should probably look at the academy ASAP and see what the stats say about them.
Especially as the only 1 we have in the top 50 is Romero and he's out.

I've felt something is really off about us for some time. I mostly felt it was a lack of training and muscle memory, maybe a good coach could drill them more thoroughly and make this more autonomous. But no.
For a couple of months the feeling I've had is we struggle to string 5 passes together in a match. Players often needlessly just kick the ball out of play, or pass is so badly that the recipient (who is bad) can't control it and loses it.

When you read it, everything we've been seeing makes more sense.

And for this reason, Lange.
 
Given the shocking revelation here that, out of hundreds and hundreds of PL players, we have only 2 that make the top 150 for successful passes, we should probably look at the academy ASAP and see what the stats say about them.
Especially as the only 1 we have in the top 50 is Romero and he's out.

I've felt something is really off about us for some time. I mostly felt it was a lack of training and muscle memory, maybe a good coach could drill them more thoroughly and make this more autonomous. But no.
For a couple of months the feeling I've had is we struggle to string 5 passes together in a match. Players often needlessly just kick the ball out of play, or pass is so badly that the recipient (who is bad) can't control it and loses it.

When you read it, everything we've been seeing makes more sense.

And for this reason, Lange.
Lange wants athletes - shit like Gallagher and bergvall, Tel etc - wank
 
I hate to pour cold water on Tel, but 3 coaches in a row have deemed him not good enough to start. Maybe, just maybe Tel aint that good.
The thing with tel debate is not whether he is good , will be good or is crap. It’s that for £40M we spent in total could we have not found a more ready made winger who would actually be good from the off. Look at lookman, olise, akaloush etc they are far better than Tel right now. We already had oddjob a young punt from champo plus are own academy boys. We didn’t need another expensive punt on a young kid. Totally shambles of a transfer policy.
 
But it will make us more solid, at the minute we are fragile in the middle all to try and play with wingers who offer us fuck all. The wingers are not creating, they're not good footballers. Also more likely to score with two strikers in the box not one...
Why can’t we under any manager especially the defensive ones look more compact and hard to beat. I watched the BM v RM game today and in 2nd half real looked very compact and made it very hard for BM to get through. They always had a player who would go close down the man with the ball. Why can’t we do that? Instead we just let teams to pass the ball around in plenty of space and allow crosses without ever closing down.
 
We’re fucked having to go cap in hand to him and held to ransom. He’ll collect the big ost packet not having to earn it or deserve it.

I agree he had us completely over the proverbial barrel .

But I reckon he’s an ambitious ( quasi narcissistic) bloke ; like many managers.

And now that he’s tied his colours to our mast ; he’d love to pull off the Great Escape.

If that’s possible or not ; is another thing .
 
Solanke, Tel, Xavi, Muani, Richarlison, they are all the same mediocre level. They would be on the bench for a team like Fulham yet they are starting-level players for us.
A couple of things here:

Its doubtful these players would be on the bench at Fulham. Prior to being bought by Spurs, all of them were fixtures for clubs equal or stronger than Fulham and were playing so well in those circumstances that we bought them.

Second, as stated above these players (maybe bar Tel) were standout performers for previous clubs to tge extent that we invested significant sums of money in each of them (bar Muani).

Similar to the saying about crazy exes - after enough of these things go sideways you should start contemplating if they're the problem or perhaps its you? We specialize in taking seemingly promising players and turning them into hollowed out husks incapable of performing at the expected level.
 
Maddison’s injury was the killer. By a mile the most talented player in the squad. Found it interesting when Olusesi came on and looked more comfortable than our senior players.

It was integral but this is THFC. A huge club.

There have been multiple factors, chief among them a poorly assembled squad- (not money spent), a really unsuited manager allowed to hang around for far too long, and a serious lack of leadership on the field.
 
Given the shocking revelation here that, out of hundreds and hundreds of PL players, we have only 2 that make the top 150 for successful passes, we should probably look at the academy ASAP and see what the stats say about them.
Especially as the only 1 we have in the top 50 is Romero and he's out.

I've felt something is really off about us for some time. I mostly felt it was a lack of training and muscle memory, maybe a good coach could drill them more thoroughly and make this more autonomous. But no.
For a couple of months the feeling I've had is we struggle to string 5 passes together in a match. Players often needlessly just kick the ball out of play, or pass is so badly that the recipient (who is bad) can't control it and loses it.

When you read it, everything we've been seeing makes more sense.

And for this reason, Lange.
There's this newsletter/podcast called The Transfer Flow that's led by the guy who created StatsBomb and used to work for Brentford on the data side. Tone can be smug at times but he's a legit successful football stats guy who knows his shit and has made a ton of money off of it working for a range of clubs across Europe and from betting.

They've been saying for years that out recruitment is a joke and how we're desperately lacking in technicians and passing ability across the team. They shat on the Palhinha signing, the Gallagher signing - tbh the majority of our signings - and they keep being proven right again and again.

That article you link to seems to show the issue - Lange & co don't really understand squad building and have been so focused on signing the 90%+ physical guys at the expense of a squad that can play football. A lot of our players will probably go on to do well as cogs in a functional machine, but we've assembled a horrible dysfunctional squad with far too many athletes and not enough actual footballers.
 
A couple of things here:

Its doubtful these players would be on the bench at Fulham. Prior to being bought by Spurs, all of them were fixtures for clubs equal or stronger than Fulham and were playing so well in those circumstances that we bought them.

Second, as stated above these players (maybe bar Tel) were standout performers for previous clubs to tge extent that we invested significant sums of money in each of them (bar Muani).

Similar to the saying about crazy exes - after enough of these things go sideways you should start contemplating if they're the problem or perhaps its you? We specialize in taking seemingly promising players and turning them into hollowed out husks incapable of performing at the expected level.
This isn't even a debate at this point is it?

It's us, the problem is us, anyone who can't see that is an idiot.
 
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