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Management Roberto De Zerbi

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I really feel like we’d have stayed up had we brought him in when we got rid of Frank.

Actually I’ll got a step further and say if we’d have sacked Tudor earlier when most were calling for it and given him 2/3 extra games he might have saved us.

I don’t see us losing that Sunderland game if he has some extra time with the team.

Said it a million times but the management of this club could not have been worse. Every decision has been wrong.
They've killed the club for 25 years. You just hope a sale is imminent.
 
If he stays next season we come right back up. But I think it’s unlikely he stays.

Don’t know he is on a £60m contract (£12m per year) and has a £5m save us bonus I suspect if we go down he will have a £5-10m promotion clause. Then it’s £20m wage, unless Real come in for him he is losing over 50% of his wage if he leaves. This is also the biggest job he has ever had.

If the club fuck him unnecessarily in the summer on transfers though I think that would maybe swing it against us.
 
Don’t know he is on a £60m contract (£12m per year) and has a £5m save us bonus I suspect if we go down he will have a £5-10m promotion clause. Then it’s £20m wage, unless Real come in for him he is losing over 50% of his wage if he leaves. This is also the biggest job he has ever had.

If the club fuck him unnecessarily in the summer on transfers though I think that would maybe swing it against us.
Yeah I think in all probability he stays if we go down but I won't feel fully confident until the season is under way with him at the helm. I've seen interviews where he's repeatedly asked "will you be at Spurs next season if they go down" and he never outright says "yes" and instead gives more of a politician's answer. If he truly does feel 100% sure he's going to stay, it shouldn't be a hard question to answer.

Sure it's insane money, but he can get a very well paid job somewhere else no doubt, so I don't think it's completely beyond the realms he fucks off if he's not happy with something behind the scenes. He was already on over 5m a year at Marseille so he's absolutely loaded and he's now in that pool of 'top managers' where he's practically guaranteed to make bank over the next couple of decades, so money might not be his biggest concern.

If the club start reneging on promises or he doesn't feel there's enough alignment of vision he's the type of character that's just gonna say "nah, fuck it, I'm gone". I don't think he's the type that's just gonna stick around solely for a paycheck. And I think there's a chance, when the reality of the Championship hits him - a year of his career, players leaving, less money for players - he simply doesn't fancy it and manufactures a way out. Especially if he has offers on the table from other big clubs.
 
Yeah but by the same token we might have sat back and still dropped points.

We sit back. 9/10 we concede. Could this have been the 1 time we scraped over the line? Of course it could of been.

IF RDZ wants us to be brave as a team. Wants to instill an identity then we have to stick to it. Manage the game within that style. Within that philosophy.

I'd much rather us try to get a third than try not to concede a second.
9/10. Name one game this season that we've actually sat back and been compact to protect a lead. Certainly hasn't been one in the last 4 months. Your just using a number you've plucked out of the sky and made it absolute.

Fact of the matter is, we didn't and we did concede, like we did at Palace too. It's basic stuff, even Pep isn't above doing it, but relegation threatened Spurs are too good to. Mad stuff.
 
He may stay at the start of next season but if we're not running away with the Championship he will throw his toys out the pram and find a way to leave. Him staying is depending on 1) getting his way this summer and 2) being in the top 2-3 in the Champ come Xmas.
 
If they're happy with him getting relegated, they wouldn't have sacked Tudor. He'd have still been there in the summer for that obscene amount of money.

He's obviously not getting sacked of we go down. That was never up for debate. But all this, he can't be judged now stuff is nonsense when we need instant results.
No one else had any more of a chance of these mystical instant results you speak of
 
No one else had any more of a chance of these mystical instant results you speak of
You don't hire a manager with 7 games left not to try get results, or they'd not have sacked Tudor. Mad this even needs explaining at all, but here we are.

We need to set up the right way to get results. Not sitting back when we were winning was silly, we lost two points because of it. The last we actually shut up after scoring, we won a tournament.
 
Yeah I think in all probability he stays if we go down but I won't feel fully confident until the season is under way with him at the helm. I've seen interviews where he's repeatedly asked "will you be at Spurs next season if they go down" and he never outright says "yes" and instead gives more of a politician's answer. If he truly does feel 100% sure he's going to stay, it shouldn't be a hard question to answer.

Sure it's insane money, but he can get a very well paid job somewhere else no doubt, so I don't think it's completely beyond the realms he fucks off if he's not happy with something behind the scenes. He was already on over 5m a year at Marseille so he's absolutely loaded and he's now in that pool of 'top managers' where he's practically guaranteed to make bank over the next couple of decades, so money might not be his biggest concern.

If the club start reneging on promises or he doesn't feel there's enough alignment of vision he's the type of character that's just gonna say "nah, fuck it, I'm gone". I don't think he's the type that's just gonna stick around solely for a paycheck. And I think there's a chance, when the reality of the Championship hits him - a year of his career, players leaving, less money for players - he simply doesn't fancy it and manufactures a way out. Especially if he has offers on the table from other big clubs.

He'll be rich still either way, and is clearly a man that doesn't care for excess money the way some others do. I have no doubts he'd be fine walking out on us at any time if he doesn't feel like he is being treated fairly/honestly by the board/exec.
 
Anyone thinking DeZerbi stays if we go down, is almost as delusional as those who still think we'll stay up.

Why he is basically giving up a £60m contract plus a fat promotion bonus. Nobody else will offer him that, he’s good don’t get me wrong but he is less proven than Pochettino this isn’t Klopp or Pep. This is the biggest job he has ever had with by far the most money. Not saying he won’t Conte on us if we fuck him around but money is money.
 
Why he is basically giving up a £60m contract plus a fat promotion bonus. Nobody else will offer him that, he’s good don’t get me wrong but he is less proven than Pochettino this isn’t Klopp or Pep. This is the biggest job he has ever had with by far the most money. Not saying he won’t Conte on us if we fuck him around but money is money.

People actually think human being in the real world just 'walk away' from generational wealth like that just because they don't want to do a job in a lesser league, yet at the same time top managers like Inzaghi are managing in Saudi for more money.

Our fans are just dooming and coping just in case the worst case scenario happens - people don't give up £50m just like that.
 
People actually think human being in the real world just 'walk away' from generational wealth like that just because they don't want to do a job in a lesser league, yet at the same time top managers like Inzaghi are managing in Saudi for more money.

Our fans are just dooming and coping just in case the worst case scenario happens - people don't give up £50m just like that.

The championship is a better overall league than the Saudi one. The Saudi league has just shown me that some players will play in any dump if the money is right. Fans on this forum seem to be treating the Championship like we are sending our manager and players to North Korea but half the players in the prem would happily go down a division if you doubled their wage, they are human beings and money is money.
 
The championship is a better overall league than the Saudi one. The Saudi league has just shown me that some players will play in any dump if the money is right. Fans on this forum seem to be treating the Championship like we are sending our manager and players to North Korea but half the players in the prem would happily go down a division if you doubled their wage, they are human beings and money is money.

If he really wanted out he would have negotiated a break clause in his contract, he could have done that as well because he had us over a barrel, afterall he managed to negotiate a massive bonus if he keeps us up.
 
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