He's not racist lets make that clear, you don't like our fans being blamed for racist acts they haven't done. So it's wrong to imply he is racist or supports racism in anyway.
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Supporters Rudiger claims he heard monkey chants
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Missing the point mate, I put 'Brexit' in front of the word murder because how the national media went into a frenzy days after the referendum racking up at a thickie working class town that voted leave where a polish man had been murdered. The national media racked up in the town on mass (there have been several murders at the stow area that never make the national news). Pushing the narrative of Brexit hate crime. Everyone in that town knew it was bollocks and what really happened but so called professional journalists apparently didn't and carried on with their narrative. Took months for it to come out in court that it was actually the polish guy who was racially abusing a teenager who turned round a killed him with a one punch wonder. Again when the truth was outed it was tucked away and briefly mentioned.
How did they know if they weren't there and an investigation was still taking place?
On what possible basis can you believe his allegations are genuine? He may have miss-heard or indeed believed he heard monkey chants but if hours of video and audio investigations show ZERO evidence, just what are you basing your unshakeable belief upon? be interested to know ....
He wasn't necessarily lying but the evidence suggests strongly that he was just plain wrong ....
He may have done, I'm not arguing against that. I'm saying that what he heard he believes, in that way his allegations are genuine.
of course he's a fucking racist!! Look what the fucker wrote!!
Who? The Multi??
Is this made up too?
The German was racially abused by Lazio fans during an Italian Cup game in March, while Pescara’s Sulley Muntari was also targeted at Cagliari and the Juventus defender Mehdi Benatia was called a “shitty Moroccan” live on television.
www.theguardian.com
The Lazio midfielder Senad Lulic has been banned by the Italian FA for 20 days and fined £8,493 (€10,000) for a racist insult towards the Roma defender Antonio Rüdiger following the heated Rome derby this month.
As the ban coincides with Serie A’s winter break, Lulic will miss only one game, at home to Crotone on 8 January.
www.theguardian.com
Just playing the 'race card', right?
The German was racially abused by Lazio fans during an Italian Cup game in March, while Pescara’s Sulley Muntari was also targeted at Cagliari and the Juventus defender Mehdi Benatia was called a “shitty Moroccan” live on television.
Roma’s Antonio Rüdiger: ‘There is too much racism in Serie A. We must act’
The Roma defender Antonio Rüdiger has pleaded with Fifa to act after another season with several incidents of racism in Serie A
www.theguardian.com
The Lazio midfielder Senad Lulic has been banned by the Italian FA for 20 days and fined £8,493 (€10,000) for a racist insult towards the Roma defender Antonio Rüdiger following the heated Rome derby this month.
As the ban coincides with Serie A’s winter break, Lulic will miss only one game, at home to Crotone on 8 January.
Lazio’s Senad Lulic receives 20-day suspension for racist insult
Lazio’s Senad Lulic said that two years ago Roma’s Antonio Rüdiger was ‘selling socks and belts’
www.theguardian.com
Just playing the 'race card', right?
That's exactly my take, in the heat of battle after just being involved in a red card / dive incident he thought he heard monkey chants ... let's face it he is not changing his story, nor are the media ... however Spurs as the accused party should come out and refute the allegations against their supporters ... as I said that's not calling Rudiger a liar, simply pointing out that he was wrong.
If this was you or I making serious nationally covered allegations we would almost certainly be forced to withdraw them and apologise or risk being sued, in fact under employment legislation false allegations of racism are dismissible offences, withdraw the accusation or face the sack. We all know that won't happen because Rudiger is a millionaire footballer, frankly that's a shame.
FYI - Legally a 'false accusation' is a claim or allegation of wrongdoing that is untrue and/or otherwise unsupported by facts.
No Spursdem. Multi is the one who was giving you a compliment.
Ah OK as you were. Agreed. I thought you were taking about The Multi/ Davey
The club have said it was inconclusive not that he misheard or didn't happen so what would they be refuting?
And they can't sue on that basis.
Who is they that you are referring to the media or the people of Harlow?
The people of Harlow?
I don't know but what come out in court was pretty much accurate as to what people where discussing in the days afterwards.
You can also turn your argument on its head and say if the investigation was still ongoing why did the national media know (quite wrongly) that this was a Brexit hate crime and report it as such.
Media outlets like the BBC behaved no better than The Sun in this instance.
Kid who struck the fatal blow only got 3 years!!
can you tell me what the BBC did wrong here?
Harlow murder inquiry: Concerns remain over alleged 'hate crime'
A public meeting in Harlow where a Polish man died and two others were attacked hears some nationals are considering leaving the town.
www.bbc.co.uk
There is no evidence, in law that makes it a false accusation, the onus is on the accuser to prove his case not on the accused to prove it didn't happen.
You are reversing accepted legal precedent to support your argument - like Rudiger in this case you're just plain wrong.
There are literally thousands of examples where people and institutions have sued over unproven allegations, as has been repeated ad nauseam the onus is on the accuser to provide evidence ... so just where is Rudiger's?
It was in the days immediately after with their sensualist reporting and then tucking it away when the court case came out. Which was my original post responding to another post.can you tell me what the BBC did wrong here?
Harlow murder inquiry: Concerns remain over alleged 'hate crime'
A public meeting in Harlow where a Polish man died and two others were attacked hears some nationals are considering leaving the town.
But you seem to have lost the complete point of it and came out with the woopdie do comment for some unknown reason. If you cant see comparisons between the media in this case jumping on the band wagon setting narratives rather than reporting news and the Rudiger case than it will be pretty much a waste of my time discussing it further with you.