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Supporters Rudiger claims he heard monkey chants

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fruityloopie said:
A compliment and insult are one of the same thing, it's the tone and delivery that adds gravitaze to the spoken word.

For example if i said to my child, 'there's a good boy', the child could accept it as being praised or alternatively being patronised.

In relation to is it a compliment or insult, as i stipulated, YOU have the unearthing ability to choose, someone saying something does not make it so. The very essense of science is built on the notion of an interpretation based on current evidence.
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When you say “Sit!” the kid could easily mishear that as an insult as well.
 
superstaryid said:
I think he's played a card to mask his cheating.

You can't go around making accusations like that on Social media unless your damn well sure and I can't see how he could of been, he hasn't gone out of his way to do anything other than throw fuel on the flames, I've no time for the lying cunt.
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Like I said he is repeating the claim he made on the pitch but even if he was making the claim on social media so what? You're making a claim on a forum that he played a 'card' to mask his cheating. So, you and others can make that claim here and on social media, but he can't say nothing? How does that work?

I think those kind of claims saying he was just playing a 'card' belittling a black man's claim of racism, makes us look very, very bad.
 
fruityloopie said:
A compliment and insult are one of the same thing, it's the tone and delivery that adds gravitaze to the spoken word.

For example if i said to my child, 'there's a good boy', the child could accept it as being praised or alternatively being patronised.

In relation to is it a compliment or insult, as i stipulated, YOU have the unearthing ability to choose, someone saying something does not make it so. The very essense of science is built on the notion of an interpretation based on current evidence.
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So when people do the monkey chants at the black players, the black players should accept it as praise?
 
Rocket said:
I’ve seen him claim to be mixed race, but never “black”?
Mixed race could mean his grandad was Irish. I realise you have beef with him and vice versa, but these personal squabbles (especially in the Spurs section of the forum) are pretty tiresome Baz. If you need to continue the argument then can you wait for him to come out of the bin and take it to the bog? I’m sure you don’t need to drum up support to prop up your personal position.

Hope you’ve had a good Christmas and that you haven’t had to spend too much time in hospital waiting rooms in the course of your charity work.
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No it slackens off at this time of the year but fully booked for next week

I only resurrected Spursdem because he created a new ID on Xmas day to abuse people including me

I’m sure you’ve read the posts
 
MVP said:
Like I said he is repeating the claim he made on the pitch but even if he was making the claim on social media so what? You're making a claim on a forum that he played a 'card' to mask his cheating. So, you and others can make that claim here and on social media, but he can't say nothing? How does that work?

I think those kind of claims saying he was just playing a 'card' belittling a black man's claim of racism, makes us look very, very bad.
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Bit different isn't it, I'm making a claim based on his claims being unsubstantiated after thorough investigation proved inconclusive and the fact he's got previous.

I also don't have the same power of influence on social media as a PL footballer, the guy needs to take responsibility for his actions, you simply can't go around publicly accusing people of a crime especially when it can do the sort of damage to a person/brand that Rudigers false claims have inflicted upon Spurs and it's fans.

He's either made it up entirely (which I believe to be the case) or he's been totally irresponsible with his power of influence as a PL footballer.
 
superstaryid said:
Bit different isn't it, I'm making a claim based on his claims being unsubstantiated after thorough investigation proved inconclusive and the fact he's got previous.

I also don't have the same power of influence on social media as a PL footballer, the guy needs to take responsibility for his actions, you simply can't go around publicly accusing people of a crime especially when it can do the sort of damage to a person/brand that Rudigers false claims have inflicted upon Spurs and it's fans.

He's either made it up entirely (which I believe to be the case) or he's been totally irresponsible with his power of influence as a PL footballer.
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The investigation proved inconclusive it doesn't prove that he was lying, he doesn't have previous for lying about racism either.

So because you don't have his power of influence it's ok for you to make baseless allegations that he lies about racism? What if these allegations are repeated by more people and it begins to trend on social media, don't you think that would be damaging?
 
MVP said:
The investigation proved inconclusive it doesn't prove that he was lying, he doesn't have previous for lying about racism either.

So because you don't have his power of influence it's ok for you to make baseless allegations that he lies about racism? What if these allegations are repeated by more people and it begins to trend on social media, don't you think that would be damaging?
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So you have a problem with my(not entirely)baseless allegations but not Rudigers?
 
MVP said:
The investigation proved inconclusive it doesn't prove that he was lying, he doesn't have previous for lying about racism either.

So because you don't have his power of influence it's ok for you to make baseless allegations that he lies about racism? What if these allegations are repeated by more people and it begins to trend on social media, don't you think that would be damaging?
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So you have a problem with my(not entirely)baseless allegations but not Rudigers?
 
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