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Manager Ryan Mason

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Airfixx said:
Wasn't aimed at you necessarily, but my point was largely that people DO look past the fact that he has already spent time managing in our academy........

Be it now or after a 2nd stint with the young'ns; I'd hope to see him fly the nest at some point if he is to ever come back for a crack at the seniors full time.
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Maybe if we end up hiring Celtic's manager, we can send him as part exchange?

Only mildly kidding. In the past I'd say he needs a job in the Championship, but they've gone a but bonkers. Almost every club made at least 1 managerial change this season. 7 months and a sacking would do him more harm than good, I'd imagine.
 
I wouldn’t be against giving him a chance now, assuming all other credible options have rejected working with Levy. Rodger’s, the Celtic manager etc won’t be backed by the crowd
 
SpiderSpurs said:
Why can't he learn the ropes here, with us?

He must be learning a hell of a lot from the managers he has worked with in the last few years?
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I meant as head coach, rather than as an assistant - should have been clear. From the outside I am not sure Mason really liked Conte, I interpreted his comment that we need people here who 'care about the club' as aimed at AC, in part.
 
SpiderSpurs said:
I know what you meant. He can learn that with us.
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Always a difference between learning from watching and learning from doing. Having the responsibility imbues one with a different level of intensity.

Think Ryan should move on now if he wants to be a manager and not content with just being a club man. As I said in another thread, don't know if the championship is a good place now, though. That division has gone a bit crazy, most clubs changed managers at least once this season.
 
MemphisWill said:
Always a difference between learning from watching and learning from doing. Having the responsibility imbues one with a different level of intensity.

Think Ryan should move on now if he wants to be a manager and not content with just being a club man. As I said in another thread, don't know if the championship is a good place now, though. That division has gone a bit crazy, most clubs changed managers at least once this season.
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I take the point you and HampshireSpur HampshireSpur make. I would just love for a manager/coach of our club to actually be part of the club - really love it as we do.

Wouldn't be adverse to the 'boot room' Liverpool had for many years...
Formed upon manager Bill Shankly's arrival at Liverpool in 1959, the Boot Room became an "unofficial institution" at the club and would produce four future managers – Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan, Kenny Dalglish and Roy Evans – over a period of thirty-nine years.

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I realise football has moved on from then.
 
SpiderSpurs said:
I take the point you and HampshireSpur HampshireSpur make. I would just love for a manager/coach of our club to actually be part of the club - really love it as we do.

Wouldn't be adverse to the 'boot room' Liverpool had for many years...
Formed upon manager Bill Shankly's arrival at Liverpool in 1959, the Boot Room became an "unofficial institution" at the club and would produce four future managers – Bob Paisley, Joe Fagan, Kenny Dalglish and Roy Evans – over a period of thirty-nine years.

The Boot Room - Wikipedia

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I realise football has moved on from then.
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If we had a Bill Shankley to tutor Mason, I'd be for it. But I don't think we'd ever have that manager.

Easy enough for someone to wade in here and say it was Poch, but Poch pretty much stated before the CL final that he was looking for the exit.

Not just football, "company men" are increasingly rare in all industries.

I would like to see Mason grow as a manager and have a real crack at it one day though.
 
I have to wonder if Mason would be able to attract quality transfers. No Europe, and a coach largely unknown any where but EPL. Stadium is nice, and of course there is karting........
 
MemphisWill said:
If we had a Bill Shankley to tutor Mason, I'd be for it. But I don't think we'd ever have that manager.

Easy enough for someone to wade in here and say it was Poch, but Poch pretty much stated before the CL final that he was looking for the exit.

Not just football, "company men" are increasingly rare in all industries.

I would like to see Mason grow as a manager and have a real crack at it one day though.
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Mason learnt loads playing for Poch, and Poch namechecks Mason & Kane as 2 of the 3 players in his career who most understood the importance of building a culture at a club.

Mason has seen a variety of different cultures created by elite head coaches - Poch, Mourinho, Conte - and the debacle of Nuno when he returned to running the Academy. Hopefully, he'll take the good and banish the bad, like all of us as we're learning a new job / role.

I think Mason has shown promising tactical nous, and the ability - together with coaches like Matt Wells - to coach more flexible systems in training in a way that players can implement.

Ideally, I think we should keep him as a first team coach with an agreement that if he gets a good offer to manage a club, he can take it.

As a footnote, I remember Hoddle cut his teeth implementing his ideas at Swindon, playing as a sweeper because his fitness had gone but his talent was still world class....
 
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