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Management So (hypothetically) who replaces Ange then?
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Supposedly he doesn’t speak English
I rather Xabi or Terzic or Glasner (and bring Eze with him)
If Ange is going, at least get someone who is in line with what they claimed they were trying to build when they hired him and recruited a bunch of teenagers
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Frank said no.
what do people expect? Zidane? The most logical choice for our project is an up and coming manager. So what up and coming manager has won something? We’re not hiring Inzaghi. We’ve tried that route with “winner” managers like Conte and Mourinho. That didn’t work for us because we don’t want to pay for experienced players. Almost all good managers who weren’t elite players with that route to management start at lesser teams and “haven’t won anything.”
Is that true? Is that what Frank is?
Frank has spent his career evaluating, working with, and developing young players. He's also tactically flexible and shown a penchant for adapting to maximize the potential of the players at his disposal.
I still rate Iraola and Glasner ahead of him, but Frank definitely fits our transfer strategy of buying players on the up and looking to buy talent/value ahead of pure tactical fit.
He isnt saying no. He has taken brentford as far as he can and at 51 will relish the opportunity.
I agree with that. But I don't see what "up and coming manager" has to do with it.
Frank is 51 years old and has been a head coach since 2013 with the last four full seasons in the PL. He's not the New Tactics Whiz On The Block.
But to your point, I also don't know if we want or need the New Tactics Whiz On The Block. I'm very skeptical of Iraola who is truly just Ange Basquexoglu
The only box Frank seems to tick is the one of being a better option than keeping Ange. Such a low hanging fruit appointment this.
I'm quite sure that Levy and co wouldn't have looked his way if he was managing in any other league, including other top leagues. Then the question arises: Is EPL on a class of its own that anything a given manager has done in it must be weighed so heavily?
Until proven otherwise he shouldn't be treated as anything more than a stopgap manager who'll hopefully get us back to top half zone, and more importantly this treatment should be reflected in his contract in terms of both length and clauses.
I'm quite sure that Levy and co wouldn't have looked his way if he was managing in any other league, including other top leagues. Then the question arises: Is EPL on a class of its own that anything a given manager has done in it must be weighed so heavily?
Until proven otherwise he shouldn't be treated as anything more than a stopgap manager who'll hopefully get us back to top half zone, and more importantly this treatment should be reflected in his contract in terms of both length and clauses.
Fuck Poch
I think "up and coming" is kind of code for "not a chequebook" manager.
I think that's very unfair to Iraola. He might not be the next Poch, and very well might would flop here. But he finished 16 points ahead of Ange with 40% of the wage bill.
It's hard to really contextualize how disastrous Ange's last 18 months have been.
The tactics are, like, exactly the same. It's the same inverted fullback shit, the same distorted overloads up the pitch in any score and situation, the same long recovery sprints every time they lose the ball, and the same cavalcade of soft tissue injuries.
What is true of Ange is true of Iraola too: this clearly works quite a bit better and more sustainably when you're only playing once a week.
The defending is far, far better under Iraola. Iraola actually has tactics, Ange is merely disorganized ideals.
The reason I'm bullish on Iraola is that it reminds me a lot of the AVB->Poch transition. Instead of tearing everything up and starting over we found someone in Poch that could more competently do what AVB was trying to do, who could fill in the gaps which were clearly lacking.
What we need is to marry this attacking philosophy to a more competent defence. Iraola played a similar style and conceded 19 fewer goals with much less talented defenders.
He's not leaving the USA team before the World Cup, so let’s forget it then.
Now what?
