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Management So (hypothetically) who replaces Ange then?

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Who to replace Ange?

  • Andoni Iraola

  • Edin Terzic

  • Graham Potter

  • Thomas Frank

  • Marco Silva

  • Kieran McKenna

  • Ryan Mason (Full Time)

  • Michel

  • Xavi

  • Mauricio Pochettino

  • Dino Toppmoller

  • Simone Inzaghi

  • Sean Dyche (Click here if you're an idiot)

  • No-one (Ange new contract)

  • Oliver Glasner

  • Vincenzo Italiano

  • Vitor Pereira

  • Scott Parker

  • Will Still

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peter merison said:
Or we could focus on getting 5th at best and have no trophy.
Our squad cannot fight on more than 1 front, he chose the Europa and won it.
However, do I think he is the right man for the job, maybe not but he has given me the most joy I have had in years and I am still enjoying it.
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When you put it like that, it sounds simply incredible!

Imagine just 'choosing the trophy you want to win' ....and then WINNING IT! That's fucking nuts!!!

Imagine he chooses to win the Premier League, (at the expense of the Cups, obviously)
I almost wouldn't rule out him doing it!
 
peter merison said:
Or we could focus on getting 5th at best and have no trophy.
Our squad cannot fight on more than 1 front, he chose the Europa and won it.
However, do I think he is the right man for the job, maybe not but he has given me the most joy I have had in years and I am still enjoying it.
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All well in good on the face of it.

But in the month in between the last EL league stage match and the first knockout round match we went 3-0-3 and got knocked out of both domestic cups.

In the month in between the R16 and QF we went 1-0-2, including a loss to Fulham.

Before that, in December we didn't win a single match, EL or PL, despite playing Roma, Fulham, Bournemouth, and Rangers (and Chelsea).

Easy to say "he focused on the EL and won it", but really that didn't become true until the end of the season when it was clear there was no real meaning to matches other than the EL.
 
McCOYS said:
Besides that you had decided that you wanted Postecoglou out before the cup final was won, so now you've reverted into making excuses for the league form again.
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I think quite a lot of us had concluded that Ange was not going to work out for us, and had expressed the view that, even if we went on to win the Europa, he had run out of road. I certainly wrote it here a few times.

I did not expect us to win the Europa and was completely unprepared for the seismic shift that win wrought in my mindset, and how much it meant to me, a fan of about 65 years.

Once the euphoria died down, it was time to take a sober look at things. Yes, our league performance was abject. It was unacceptable. But, and it’s a big but, we did something under Ange that the likes of Conte and Mourhino and Poch and Redknapp and so many others failed to deliver. I don’t buy, for a moment, that it was easy. We are winners again, and in a major tournament, and we have a place in the CL.

For us to replace a manager who has delivered that, abject league performance notwithstanding, we would have to appoint a proven, world class, serial winner as manager. There aren’t too many of them knocking around just now. Unless one can be persuaded to join us, I feel Ange should be given a shot at next season.

I have no problem, generally, with people who disagree.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Not making excuses. Adding context

And obviously, we won our biggest trophy in 41 years. It changes everything
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You started the season 100% backing Postecoglou but then you reached a point that you wanted him out because of the poor league form So you stooped adding context for the purpose of defending him and the team's league form towards the end of the season but then a cup was won, and you revert back to what you were doing regarding the league form.

It's as if the cup win has changed the league form in your mind. Now you're also saying you might change your mind again depending on the first ten matches, and despite the cup win.

Do I have that about right?
 
Percy Clay said:
I think quite a lot of us had concluded that Ange was not going to work out for us, and had expressed the view that, even if we went on to win the Europa, he had run out of road. I certainly wrote it here a few times.

I did not expect us to win the Europa and was completely unprepared for the seismic shift that win wrought in my mindset, and how much it meant to me, a fan of about 65 years.

Once the euphoria died down, it was time to take a sober look at things. Yes, our league performance was abject. It was unacceptable. But, and it’s a big but, we did something under Ange that the likes of Conte and Mourhino and Poch and Redknapp and so many others failed to deliver. I don’t buy, for a moment, that it was easy. We are winners again, and in a major tournament, and we have a place in the CL.

For us to replace a manager who has delivered that, abject league performance notwithstanding, we would have to appoint a proven, world class, serial winner as manager. There aren’t too many of them knocking around just now. Unless one can be persuaded to join us, I feel Ange should be given a shot at next season.

I have no problem, generally, with people who disagree.
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Sure but I'm just stating the obvious, the cup win as good as it is, doesn't mean we need to look back on our league form from last season and reassess it as better than it was because we won the cup. We haven't suddenly become a better team after winning the cup.
 
McCOYS said:
You started the season 100% backing Postecoglou but then you reached a point that you wanted him out because of the poor league form So you stooped adding context for the purpose of defending him and the team's league form towards the end of the season but then a cup was won, and you revert back to what you were doing regarding the league form.

It's as if the cup win has changed the league form in your mind. Now you're also saying you might change your mind again depending on the first ten matches, and despite the cup win.

Do I have that about right?
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Cup win hasn’t changed the league form, it’s changed how important the league form is to me
 
MemphisWill said:
All well in good on the face of it.

But in the month in between the last EL league stage match and the first knockout round match we went 3-0-3 and got knocked out of both domestic cups.

In the month in between the R16 and QF we went 1-0-2, including a loss to Fulham.

Before that, in December we didn't win a single match, EL or PL, despite playing Roma, Fulham, Bournemouth, and Rangers (and Chelsea).

Easy to say "he focused on the EL and won it", but really that didn't become true until the end of the season when it was clear there was no real meaning to matches other than the EL.
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It became clear in January by all accounts, I understand that the league has been horrendous and it should have been better, maybe it will next year who knows.
 
Richard Arlison said:
Cup win hasn’t changed the league form, it’s changed how important the league form is to me
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I know that Postecoglou stated that he decided to switch focus away from the Premier League in January and towards the Europa League. I don't believe it was just him and not the higher ups at the club, because it's about £3m for each Premier League position upwards as prize money. I don't think he has the clout to decided that.

Anyway the paying public that go to watch the team are being mugged off, because their getting substandard performances. Yes it's nice to win a cup but we won the same cup but it was called the UEFA cup, in 1984 and still managed to end the season 8th in the league. When we got to the Champions League final in 2019 we ended up 4th in the league.

I'd except injuries as an excuse if the set up was altered in the league campaign so that not having our best back four was supported by not playing these crazy tactics.
 
McCOYS said:
Sure but I'm just stating the obvious, the cup win as good as it is, doesn't mean we need to look back on our league form from last season and reassess it as better than it was because we won the cup. We haven't suddenly become a better team after winning the cup.
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Our league form was, as I said, abject. On that we agree. I have not reassessed that at all.
The cup win might, indeed, make us a better team if only from the perspective that it could alter the mindset of the players and give them a much needed shot of self confidence. On that we slightly disagree. Even if that is not true, there is a whole transfer window to be negotiated, so it remains to be seen what the team looks like next season.

My rationale for sticking with Ange unless a world class, serial winner, Manager is brought in, remains unchanged.
 
Percy Clay said:
I think quite a lot of us had concluded that Ange was not going to work out for us, and had expressed the view that, even if we went on to win the Europa, he had run out of road. I certainly wrote it here a few times.

I did not expect us to win the Europa and was completely unprepared for the seismic shift that win wrought in my mindset, and how much it meant to me, a fan of about 65 years.

Once the euphoria died down, it was time to take a sober look at things. Yes, our league performance was abject. It was unacceptable. But, and it’s a big but, we did something under Ange that the likes of Conte and Mourhino and Poch and Redknapp and so many others failed to deliver. I don’t buy, for a moment, that it was easy. We are winners again, and in a major tournament, and we have a place in the CL.

For us to replace a manager who has delivered that, abject league performance notwithstanding, we would have to appoint a proven, world class, serial winner as manager. There aren’t too many of them knocking around just now. Unless one can be persuaded to join us, I feel Ange should be given a shot at next season.

I have no problem, generally, with people who disagree.
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Exactly this
 
McCOYS said:
I know that Postecoglou stated that he decided to switch focus away from the Premier League in January and towards the Europa League. I don't believe it was just him and not the higher ups at the club, because it's about £3m for each Premier League position upwards as prize money. I don't think he has the clout to decided that.

Anyway the paying public that go to watch the team are being mugged off, because their getting substandard performances. Yes it's nice to win a cup but we won the same cup but it was called the UEFA cup, in 1984 and still managed to end the season 8th in the league. When we got to the Champions League final in 2019 we ended up 4th in the league.

I'd except injuries as an excuse if the set up was altered in the league campaign so that not having our best back four was supported by not playing these crazy tactics.
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You are entitled to be pissed off for the league form mate. For me, the EL makes up for it.
 
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